Sharks v Tahs, round 7 2014
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Fred Wood (13)
TBF the ref had given three or four warnings at that stage for silly stuff, really had no choice by then to either deal with it or allowing an all out brawl. Dennis deserved a yellow if for no other reason than being thick as.
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Ron Walden (29)
two ways to take it tho.
the ref simply took the touchies comments (shove??) and so YC'd him. No way in hell it could be called a shove.
But, we had already had BdP 'warning' the ref 'we won't take it any more' (think the response was 'well don't take things into your own hand' or similar)
A touch on the arm later, they react after being warned not to, and the touchie get's the description so wrong it's farcical and off he goes for ten.
If one went off surely the person reacting (which is often punished harder than the offender) should also have gone, after all they had already made it clear they would take the law into their own hands. And did.
the ref simply took the touchies comments (shove??) and so YC'd him. No way in hell it could be called a shove.
But, we had already had BdP 'warning' the ref 'we won't take it any more' (think the response was 'well don't take things into your own hand' or similar)
A touch on the arm later, they react after being warned not to, and the touchie get's the description so wrong it's farcical and off he goes for ten.
If one went off surely the person reacting (which is often punished harder than the offender) should also have gone, after all they had already made it clear they would take the law into their own hands. And did.
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
The Dave Dennis yellow card was one of the WORSE decisions I've ever seen. Terrible refereeing.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
hooper is looking more and more like the tahs captain given this effort from dennis
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David Codey (61)
No,sorry but it just cannot be against the rules to push & shove a South African player.
If that standard was applied universally, very few South African teams could barely finish a game with any players!
The card wasn't for the push, it was because of all the shit beforehand, it was just the last straw
It was in the end for being dumb
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Andrew Slack (58)
Sigh.
There is no conspiracy here, no Saffer this Aussie that. It's a simple case getting warned for contact off the ball niggle and not listening.
SA teams have lost players for this kind of nonsense. Plenty times. Sometimes they listen, sometimes they donut. The Tahs did took it to a new level though. I actually rewound a few times to see if I had really just seen that.
Maybe Cheika should take the pre-game gee-up down a notch. They looked too wired for mine last night when all that energy and focus could go into making the tackle or getting back up and into position.
It is like the new replacement getting carded 30 seconds into his time for his first minor infringement
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Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Not having seen the full game yet I'll refrain from discussing the merits of the card.
From what I'm reading, both sides were pushing the laws to the limit and the referee was having trouble controlling things.
I'm a big Cheika fan, but it sounds like the team needs him to set an example in terms of playing smart and not getting sucked in to situations where the Dennis card occurred.
I don't think that the referees have distinguished themselves in this super competition, but that's no excuse for poor discipline. This should be a lesson.
From what I'm reading, both sides were pushing the laws to the limit and the referee was having trouble controlling things.
I'm a big Cheika fan, but it sounds like the team needs him to set an example in terms of playing smart and not getting sucked in to situations where the Dennis card occurred.
I don't think that the referees have distinguished themselves in this super competition, but that's no excuse for poor discipline. This should be a lesson.
Overall Mike Fraser refereed this game well.
I disagree with the Dennis yellow card but overall Fraser controlled what was a very physical and niggly game very well.
It looked to me like both sides were pushing things pretty equally.
Definitely the most physical game I've seen this year. So many massive tackles.
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I disagree with the Dennis yellow card but overall Fraser controlled what was a very physical and niggly game very well.
It looked to me like both sides were pushing things pretty equally.
Definitely the most physical game I've seen this year. So many massive tackles.
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It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Dennis just doesn't seem up to being captain.
The Sharks skipper gave him a comprehensive lesson on how and when to communicate with the ref throughout the match.
In the end the ref was either ignoring Dennis's approaches or cutting him off mid sentence.
He needs a quick lesson on body language and how to communicate effectively.
The Sharks skipper gave him a comprehensive lesson on how and when to communicate with the ref throughout the match.
In the end the ref was either ignoring Dennis's approaches or cutting him off mid sentence.
He needs a quick lesson on body language and how to communicate effectively.
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Tahs had the chance to announce their presence on the wider rugby stage but blew it. Time will tell if they are Tarzan or Jane this season.
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Jason Little (69)
Can't agree with this BH. I thought the ref was completely out of his depth and wasn't able to handle the confrontational elements of the game. Saying that though, I don't think he caused the Tahs to lose the game. That was probably down to their very poor ball handling and control, and the weakness of their lineout and scrum moreso.
He had issues
Horne and Steyn should have been in the bin at least.
I don't know if it was normal but the TMO seemed to be much more involved with the rough stuff, I don't really know if it is working, I like it catching the rubbish, I don't like the time it takes
Rob
Sydney Middleton (9)
Tahs were playing like Cheika used to - wired and niggly. I don't think it works or is a good look.
At the end of the day they weren't good enough. Nothing going on in that backline to trouble anyone.
Also found out our lack of depth in front row. Paddy Ryan packed 5 scrums, gave away 3 penalties for collapsing and in the other two he stood up - which could also have been a penalty.
At the end of the day they weren't good enough. Nothing going on in that backline to trouble anyone.
Also found out our lack of depth in front row. Paddy Ryan packed 5 scrums, gave away 3 penalties for collapsing and in the other two he stood up - which could also have been a penalty.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I've seen incidents of "sling" tackles like that adjudged to be dangerous, as far as the Steyn/Beale thing goes, but he's unlikely to get more than a warning despite the clear intent he had to slam Beale into the ground as hard as he could.
Horne is in trouble - foreign player in South Africa who gets cited. I'll bet the local judiciary officers couldn't get on the phone quick enough to put themselves in line.
As for the yellow card - if Fraser thinks it was appropriate. I thought it was a bit soft. However, Bismarck retaliated so deserved the same punishment according to the Laws.
Horne is in trouble - foreign player in South Africa who gets cited. I'll bet the local judiciary officers couldn't get on the phone quick enough to put themselves in line.
As for the yellow card - if Fraser thinks it was appropriate. I thought it was a bit soft. However, Bismarck retaliated so deserved the same punishment according to the Laws.
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