Australian Rugby / RA

[Wilson]

Schmidt's two year deal is all about sufficient time to make the change over before the World cup if he isn't continuing on, not necessarily that he absolutely won't. There's a decent chance he will, though the most likely might be that he moves into an assistant/advisor/DoR sort of role to help the next coach through. Timing will be tricky for RA though - two of the lead candidates will likely be McKellar and Les Kiss, who you'd ideally like to see have a year or two longer with their respective super sides. After the world cup would probably be the ideal time for change over for those two.

 

[PhilClinton]

I am definitely no fan of rushing people into jobs, but I also wonder if building an identity linked to a Super Rugby franchise over say 4-5 years creates an identity which comes off as slightly negative. It is probably a case by case basis.

As in, the Reds players in the squad are a bit over being coached by Kiss at that point and the other franchise players just see him as the QLD guy.

Hard to compare like for like but some of the best representative coaches in the NRL haven't been linked to a club team.

It will be interesting to see how Scott Robinson goes with the All Blacks after being the face of the Crusaders for a number of years.

 

[drewprint]

Have spent the entire afternoon scouring all 612 billion GIF's on the internet and I still can't find even half of one GIF that adequately expresses my shock at reading this statement.

Best I could find, but still doesn’t quite capture it.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Kiss will be 62/63 by the time of the WC, so possibly not much of a long-term option either.

 

[Tomikin]

SHRINK TO GREATNESS

stfu absolutely no value to the thread.

 

[Joe Blow]

It’s the RA way. Get Nucifora in for 2 days a week for a year and expect to turn around our whole system. Schmidt is an excellent option but 1-2 years is not enough time to do much with any side, let alone our current one.
Everything is done partially and half arsed.

 

[Strewthcobber]

It’s the RA way. Get Nucifora in for 2 days a week for a year and expect to turn around our whole system. Schmidt is an excellent option but 1-2 years is not enough time to do much with any side, let alone our current one.
Everything is done partially and half arsed.

This is just a function of our federated system. Nucifora wants the state unions pro setups to vote themselves out of existence.

The states voted down Nucifora's proposal in 2012, and again last year, taking down RA's chairman along with the vote.

It's taken them reaching the point of financial non-existance for two of them to come to the party.

There's no point bringing him on if the governance model doesn't allow it

 

[Dctarget]

Did Nucifora act naughty by going to Scotland or was this all above board?

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Kiss will be 62/63 by the time of the WC, so possibly not much of a long-term option either.

He's also never won anything as a HC which is a big part of it tbh when taking on a job like that. Isn't his only title with LI from the English Championship not the Prem. He's always ended up with stacked squads along the way.

Reds come out and brain the comp then fuck it let him have it.

 

[Joe Blow]

This is just a function of our federated system. Nucifora wants the state unions pro setups to vote themselves out of existence.

The states voted down Nucifora's proposal in 2012, and again last year, taking down RA's chairman along with the vote.

It's taken them reaching the point of financial non-existance for two of them to come to the party.

There's no point bringing him on if the governance model doesn't allow it

I would subscribe to his views and opinions way ahead of whoever is driving the bus now. How has voting him down worked for us so far?
We have a system on life support that appears to be slowly dwindling. Surely he has something to offer having been so successful with the Irish system? The governance model is a bust.

 

[Wilson]

Did Nucifora act naughty by going to Scotland or was this all above board?

Above board, he was always on a set contract, part time and the role he's in has no reason to have a non-compete/gardening leave/stand down - he didn't have it for his Irish role before coming here for example.

I think the reason there has been a bit of a blow up here is that RA were happy to let people believable he was coming into a more serious and long term role when he signed on, because it was good press for them. Peter Horne has always been the guy in that role and having Nucifora there long term could easily have been a detriment in a "too many cooks" sort of way.

 

[JRugby2]

He's also never won anything as a HC which is a big part of it tbh when taking on a job like that. Isn't his only title with LI from the English Championship not the Prem. He's always ended up with stacked squads along the way.

Reds come out and brain the comp then fuck it let him have it.

If we start narrowing down the coaching list to Australians with a history of winning comps we've literally only got Cheik and Voldermaaaaaaaate (I'll give him RWC07 with the boks here) to choose from.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

Fuck it, Count Super Rugby AU for all I care.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

That demographic would have to be very, very narrow...

Bigger than you think. Could get 10k at some of the big games and I'd be confident saying 50% of them would have watched 3 games or less of Super Rugby all year.

 

[JRugby2]

Fuck it, Count Super Rugby AU for all I care.

Horny Thorny back from the dead

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

He's my dream pick for the U20s job. No nonsense.

Run the program nationally and build them. Perfect spot for a guy who has the potential to physically grind players. You're only going to see him for a couple years as a player so don't get fatigued of him.

 

[Marce]

No, and I've been here for a long time... maybe too long?

Did this thread even exist?

And should we miss those miserable fucks?

I've been here for a looooong time. I even wrote articles about the Pumas and Jaguares in 2016 and 2017. I had an old user that I lost, so I should have more messages here. So, yes. I remember that thread pretty well

Argentina get historic home win against Boks - Green & Gold Rugby

On a golden afternoon in the city of Salta, the Pumas managed to remove the thorn from their paw and beat the mighty Springboks at home for the first time ever. Last week they were only eight minutes away from victory and the squad vowed not to make the same mistakes. First half The Pumas

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Force win Bueno Aires boilover - Green & Gold Rugby

The Force beat the Jaguares in one of their most glorious games. They arrived in Buenos Aires with only two victories in the competition this year, and with the pressure to fight to survive in the tournament. Reading the newspapers, they seemed an easy rival for a team with many test players who...

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Scotland won a must-win game in the last breath - Green & Gold Rugby

FIRST HALF The first half of the game was a slow grinding affair more akin to a game being played in the mud. Argentina conceded a penalty at the breakdown that allowed the Scots to the first points on the scoreboard through the foot of Greig Laidlaw. Both teams made a lot of errors and

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Jaguares come back from hell to get historic win - Green & Gold Rugby

Los Jaguares make an exciting start to their Super Rugby journey but were there own worst enemies in Bloemfontein.

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[Dctarget]

I've been here for a looooong time. I even wrote articles about the Pumas and Jaguares in 2016 and 2017. I had an old user that I lost, so I should have more messages here. So, yes. I remember that thread pretty well

Argentina get historic home win against Boks - Green & Gold Rugby

On a golden afternoon in the city of Salta, the Pumas managed to remove the thorn from their paw and beat the mighty Springboks at home for the first time ever. Last week they were only eight minutes away from victory and the squad vowed not to make the same mistakes. First half The Pumas

greenandgoldrugby.com

Force win Bueno Aires boilover - Green & Gold Rugby

The Force beat the Jaguares in one of their most glorious games. They arrived in Buenos Aires with only two victories in the competition this year, and with the pressure to fight to survive in the tournament. Reading the newspapers, they seemed an easy rival for a team with many test players who...

greenandgoldrugby.com

Scotland won a must-win game in the last breath - Green & Gold Rugby

FIRST HALF The first half of the game was a slow grinding affair more akin to a game being played in the mud. Argentina conceded a penalty at the breakdown that allowed the Scots to the first points on the scoreboard through the foot of Greig Laidlaw. Both teams made a lot of errors and

greenandgoldrugby.com

Jaguares come back from hell to get historic win - Green & Gold Rugby

Los Jaguares make an exciting start to their Super Rugby journey but were there own worst enemies in Bloemfontein.

greenandgoldrugby.com

Marce, can I ask where you come from if not Argentina?

 

[Marce]

Marce, can I ask where you come from if not Argentina?

Nowadays I have too many haters here. I'll be happy to tell you in a private chat

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Marce, can I ask where you come from if not Argentina?

Nowadays I have too many haters here. I'll be happy to tell you in a private chat