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  1. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I find the biggest issue with Australian commentary is the lack of variety, I remember from the early 2000's it's been pretty much the same crew, its not that I dislike them. But tuning in every single game for the last 20yrs its Kearns/Kafer/Clarke Martin/Gregan the whole thing becomes so...
  2. hoggy

    Australian Rugby / RA

    I am wondering though is it possible that Twiggy could be tempted to help with financing a domestic product, he specifically wanted governance change, if that happens and with Co-Vid really making GRR looking more & more unlikely, and basically the Kiwis only want his money, could he be tempted...
  3. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    It is just sad that after 20 years, the damage that Super rugby has done to the code in this country when the only option that appears available now is some Semi-Pro, oranges at halftime domestic competition.
  4. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    NZR aren't dictating to the RA, but they have made it VERY VERY clear what there position is, and what they think the RA's position should be. They want an 8 team TT competition with a Pacific presence. This is what they think is the best option to sell to broadcasters. (and a pacific team...
  5. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    If that is the case and Japan has some genuine interest, then I would argue even more strongly that a 6 team domestic competition for next year is your best option moving forward with a possible cross championship start in 2022. This would give you 2021 for all the 3 countries to define there...
  6. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    That's all well and good and it still gives you a domestic competition. But you then need Japan to produce a 6 team competition in that time frame (has anyone asked them), and then get NZ to add another team. The issue is you are asking other entities all who have there own interests (NZ want...
  7. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Start with 6 with the potential to go to 8 or 10 over the next 5-10-15 years if conditions allow, but at least your not locked into a format with NZ that prevents you from evolving.
  8. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    But we've had 20 years of a competition with the best players in the World being available, with every layer of the game and every cent sacrificed to ensure that, yet we're just above the A-League in average Joe Office chat.
  9. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    You can design a TT to respond to a COVID crisis, but it will look bloody stupid and messy, just what rugby here needs another home run, and I would argue that the RA would be more wise starting to chase its home market of 25 million, than forever compromising themselves to suit NZ
  10. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Surely an NRC style comp is now starting to look more possible for next year. They're gonna look stupid organizing a TT and then have 6-9 months of uncertainty around whether it can proceed.
  11. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    maybe Co-Vid will be under control or even a vaccine, but theirs a decent risk of a flair up at some stage next year, is it worth the risk of planning a TT comp with that forward knowledge.
  12. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    No drastic headlines of Mongolian franchises being added to the comp this week, don't know whether i'd go as far as adult talk though.
  13. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The problem is the RA face some tough choices. 1. Go with a 10 team TT and then you have the issue of providing 5 competitive teams and a NZ market that's not really interested in 2 or 3 of those teams. 2. Go domestic, but how and how do we fund it, realistically this would require at least...
  14. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Exactly currently expat Kiwis support NZ rugby more than Aus they essentially just follow who they originally did back in NZ, separate competitions will over time assist in growth here, by growing domestic support.
  15. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    And running parallel tournaments will in the long run be the best option for Australian rugby, giving some clear air to actually grow.
  16. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    That's a huge part of the issue, you create this perception that the only games worth watching are Test matches, or Super rugby has to be sitting virtually at that level, you have nowhere to go. "Australian rugby, can't watch that its shit" when you promote that argument, you literally then...
  17. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Why not just start with an 8 team domestic competition the 5 current franchises, add 1 NSW/1 QLD/Drua 8 teams. If cash-flow is an issue then just start with 6 in 2021 8 in 2022. The most important things is to get out of this stupid mentality of only games against NZ are legitimate. Pitch...
  18. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Yet we were quite happy to sign up to a global competition over 5 continents, different Time-zones, languages & individual countries interests.
  19. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    You can't really blame NZ all of the option they propose fit neatly into there season, set-up and agenda. The issue is were crazy to sign up-to to it. TT will do exactly what Super rugby has done for the game here for the last 20 years, ensures that it forever stays in a never ending state of...
  20. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I think you mean NZR have a plan that suits them nicely, they are asking RA to sign up for something that has our interests on page 57 paragraph 10 of the agreement.
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