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I do understand where NZ come from in regards to a TT competition, but who always seems to be making the sacrifices, does Australian rugby have to accommodate another change to suit a model that aligns with NZ. We don't have the talent for 5 teams to be competitive, so what happens after 2/3...

Watched Twiggy on the Breakdown today (yep working from home :)), but he knows what to say, when asked for his opinion about the future comp set up he immediately spoke about building the grassroots, he was a breath of fresh air you could see the panelists just nodding in approval, especially...

It shows that we're not that far apart though, if (and this is all speculation) we get $20 million were only $5 Million short, and considering Co-Vid, is that so bad, that doesn't factor in a champions league, but negatively a domestic league will require at least one more team (6) to start, the...

Just looking at the figures did the $125M include Tests as well, and how do you work out the 94 - 22 games, not disputing the figures just not sure how you came to that.

The Australian today reported that a domestic comp would be worth just $10 million and Tests another $10 million. So how much more would a TT be worth on top of that $10 Million, because surely you would need to factor in some further equity available in a champions league, after your domestic...

The whole fiasco of the Sunwolves was probably the straw that broke the camels back of Super Rugby.

Just saw that in the Australian behind a paywall, but my exact thoughts and all of a sudden Hallaron pops up, if domestic is worth just $10million then what is TT worth?. i get nervous with Clarke because he has openly stated he is in the job for just 6 months so pretty much no consequences and...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/if-we-have-to-go-it-alone-we-will-but-o-neill-believes-new-zealand-and-australia-need-each-other-20200714-p55bw1.html Interesting from the SMH this morning O'Neil saying we need each other, but then spends half the article mapping out a domestic option.

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/07/14/kafer-super-rugby-australia-2021 Even kafers getting in on the act, must distracting his commentary.

The guys been writing opinion pieces for Stuff for ages now, and this is just another of those tit for tat we're better than you ones, but the articles has some genuine points, its about the games meaning something, tribalism or whatever you want to call it. My point is we've tied ourselves to...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/122125834/mark-reason-new-zealand-rugby-is-way-better-off-without-the-bludging-aussies Surely its time we go it alone, f--k the economics.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/it-s-me-first-australia-warned-over-trans-tasman-plans-20200612-p55235.html "We had the model fully-costed by the broadcasters and us in 2009. It was viable financially and much more user friendly in terms of time zone and vastly reduced overheads,"...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/new-zealand-owes-australia-nothing-hansen-fires-up-in-super-rugby-debate-20200711-p55b5m.html The slanging match continues, but do we need anymore proof that its about time to look after ourselves, because the Kiwis only want a Super rugby competition...

That reads very much as "get your sh--t together and then, maybe lets talk"

Because long term the one thing the game needs here to survive is become more popular, which it needs to do domestically. What evidence is there a TT is going to bring in more money especially long term NZ is already milking top $dollar so where is that extra money coming from if not Aus, if...

The further along we go, the more I think a domestic league is the answer (caveat) followed by champions league. We don't have the quality or depth for 5 teams against NZ, and hell last night wasn't exactly a promotion. The only real option for TT is to go two 3 teams against NZ, this would...

Yes Super 18 was a disaster, but so many on here were demanding expansion to take over the world so we all got rich and rugby in Australia GROW, are there any lessons, no let sweep that baby under the carpet. We expanded to 5 teams in markets that were barely above sausage sizzle clubs, yet no...

If the size of the game here is so small then why do we calculate success by a world ranking of 1 or 2 or world cup wins. We've never tried a domestic structure because of the vested interest associated with those involved with the professional set up. Look Rennie may be more than genuine...

So the last 20 years must be some sort of aberration then.

Of course he was going to say that, he is the coach. playing NZ in super is good for his position, is it good for the game in Australia.