Wallabies v Springboks, Sat 10th August 2.30pm AEST @ Suncorp,
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Cyril Towers (30)
Lynagh had time? It was 15 on 13 at that stage. No 10 goes well when they have minimal ball and the forwards were outplayed.
whitefalcon
Ron Walden (29)
this call baffled me too
I know people
Yes, I said he would get smashed. Gives it a good crack, just too small. Forwards out muscled, backs to quick and slick. We don't have the cattle. They need Skelton A.S.A.P. Thor and Bell. Yes, backs didn't see much ball not their fault today. I will continue to say fly half has been an achilles heel for Aus rugby ever since Quade and Foley finished up (disclaimer Foley was not that good either, and Quade better with age). I will maintain (and get shouted at) that Aus rugby need to try something new with Carter Gordon gone to league. Lolesio, Lynagh and Donaldson give it their all but they all lack the skill required at fly half for Australia to become a top tier rugby nation again. I touted about 5 years ago about moving Wright to fly half in club and super rugby as I think he could of been very good there as he is quick off the mark and has the pace, vision to slip through on attack more so than anyone we have at the moment (I got laughed at on here for the suggestion). To old now to change Wright and yes, I am a Tahs fan but honestly I think they have to give Jorgenson a crack. Not saying he will do well there but both the Tahs and Wallabies have nothing to lose. Give him a crack at club rugby, then the Tahs, then the Wallabies if good enough. My future backline, Lonergan 9, Jorgenson 10 (if good enough), Toole 11, Sua'lli'i 12 (again give him a crack after settling in on the wing first), Ikitau, Tim Ryan or Lancaster unless someone else comes along, Tom Wright (if no one else).
Where's the beef
Chris McKivat (8)
Yeah he did. You cant teach it.
The young man who played 12 for the reds and did his ACL in super rugby was hands down the the best 12 I saw this year. Hope he gets back.
Yes the forwards were beaten, but, the 10 could hardly get us out of the 22!. Position does count.
Too many people in this play expect miracles.
Joe needs time.
Where's the beef
Chris McKivat (8)
Jorgo is no 10. He is wing or 15.
Dono has gifts with the boot, but does not steer the ship camly.
Noah scores points but cannot give you field position because his field kicking is too short
Lynagh is still developing but I like what I see. Needs to be nurtured.
I thought the 7 played well today. We have no pockock who was the best over the ball in contact.
Lower scrum, Less fancy linout. Gotta bend the line. Harry tackled his heart out today but needs a trailer to pop to. He does not break the line in tight. We need a few more animals.
Where's the beef
Chris McKivat (8)
Not the answer.
dillyboy
Colin Windon (37)
Definition of insanity is trying the same thing over & over again and expecting a different result....
DropGoal
Larry Dwyer (12)
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
Trying to solve our problems caused by our forwards getting destroyed by rotating through yet another young 10 is indeed insane
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John Thornett (49)
Yeah you are correct neither is paying 1.8m for the bloke replacing him is either. But that’s the union you support lol
dillyboy
Colin Windon (37)
Agreed also true.
If our forwards weren't getting smashed the backline play would have been different.
I still don't rate that 9-10 combination though
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
I actually can't believe how many posts are talking about 9&10 here after that game.
Probably says something about what we care about in this country, and why we are where we are.
Probably says something about what we care about in this country, and why we are where we are.
Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
Unsure what I expected. But, after seeing Taniela and Bell warm up with the squad, part of me thought there had been late substitutions and both were in the 23.
When they didnt come back out with the team I think that's when it all went downhill.
Having a scrum that much of a liability was the biggest get out of jail card for the Boks. They could win a penalty on either feed, kick the ball 30-40m down the field and get the pill back.
There's not much we can do other than Bell and Taniela coming back. Perhaps Hodgman as Slipper is busted.
Skelton and other French players aren't match fit or around. So you're really only got Blyth and Smith who are around and can assist.
With both Rights out, I'd be getting Uru or Hooper to start at 7 because Tiazzano was unnoticed.
Finally, whoever is captain next week needs to be in the Refs ear about Kolbes constant off sides. He was in our backline on the pass that lead up to our try.
When they didnt come back out with the team I think that's when it all went downhill.
Having a scrum that much of a liability was the biggest get out of jail card for the Boks. They could win a penalty on either feed, kick the ball 30-40m down the field and get the pill back.
There's not much we can do other than Bell and Taniela coming back. Perhaps Hodgman as Slipper is busted.
Skelton and other French players aren't match fit or around. So you're really only got Blyth and Smith who are around and can assist.
With both Rights out, I'd be getting Uru or Hooper to start at 7 because Tiazzano was unnoticed.
Finally, whoever is captain next week needs to be in the Refs ear about Kolbes constant off sides. He was in our backline on the pass that lead up to our try.
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Desmond Connor (43)
Keep Wright at fullback, Koro for Dungunu, Lolo at 10, agree on Williams at 6, not sure if Frost's fitness but would look to bring in Smith and Swain, Sam Talakai would be worth a go at tighthead with Hodgeman at loose.
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Alex Ross (28)
I was happy with the effort of the forwards in defence. Every one of them put a huge shift in. We were always going to struggle against that Bok pack. In the line out we were a target short, and had to resort to dancing around to try and take the pressure off the throw.
Our kicking game was poor today. No team could keep the Boks out with that much territory and possession. Apart from that the turnovers when we finally got close to their line were coach killers.
Our kicking game was poor today. No team could keep the Boks out with that much territory and possession. Apart from that the turnovers when we finally got close to their line were coach killers.
Tomthumb
Chilla Wilson (44)
No medal?
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
I see we're starting to get predictable calls for wholesale changes already. Bell and TT back in the front row will help, but ultimately the coaching team have to keep working with these blokes and improve their technique and formations out on the park.
This has been a reality check of the most severe kind and was going to happen at some point. We should not be throwing away everything we've been trying to build with knee jerk selections.
A bit of bloody calm please. IMHO we are already functioning better than this time last year.
This has been a reality check of the most severe kind and was going to happen at some point. We should not be throwing away everything we've been trying to build with knee jerk selections.
A bit of bloody calm please. IMHO we are already functioning better than this time last year.
whitefalcon
Ron Walden (29)
For next week the changes i'd make would be
?? the front row - no idea but something needs to change, hopefully Bell is fit, Tupou will be out no doubt
LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) out for Blyth or maybe even Hooper in the 2nd row
A bigger body at 6 with Valetini and 8
Backline i'd leave the same with perhaps Filipo dropping to the bench for Koriebete
?? the front row - no idea but something needs to change, hopefully Bell is fit, Tupou will be out no doubt
LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) out for Blyth or maybe even Hooper in the 2nd row
A bigger body at 6 with Valetini and 8
Backline i'd leave the same with perhaps Filipo dropping to the bench for Koriebete
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