Springboks 2010 End Of Year Tour

[Bowside]

Wouldn't get to worried just yet. Seems like drug is set to be reclassified.

Could anyone fill me in on the drug in question, what are the effects? Is it performance enhancing or recreational?

 

[PaarlBok]

Look like Basson was put on Brute powder a bit to early by Chilli. This open the door for Strauss to take his spot in the team. Probably not good news for the Skotte and Poms.

 

[PaarlBok]

Could anyone fill me in on the drug in question, what are the effects? Is it performance enhancing or recreational?

per google

Methylhexaneamine is a Banned Substance - Watch for It!
Tuesday October 26, 2010
With the news that nine Australian athletes tested positive (at home) for the internationally banned substance methylhexaneamine, and that a Nigerian sprinter was stripped of her gold medal because of a positive test at the Commonwealth Games in New Delhi, athletes everywhere with any sensitivity to these performance drug issues are being very careful what supplements they take -- even if they seem to be approved. Contaminants and perhaps deliberate adulterants do occur in even well-known products.

According to The Australian newspaper, in the 12 months since the stimulant was added to the WADA banned list, 19 athletes have tested positive. This is a stimulant, possibly with amphetamine-like properties. It has also been found in 'party drugs.'

According to The Australian and other sources, this chemical may still be in over-the-counter energy products in stores and sold across the web. Be careful!

This “non-specified stimulant” was responsible for a couple of bannings during the Commonwealth games. Some got off easy (short banning) and some didnt.

 

[Blue]

I just check my sinus meds and it contains the substance. I'm loaded. Anyone want to take me on?

Heard on the ABC news this morning that bot players were on meds for flu symptoms last week. The drug has been on the list for reclassification for years.

A friend of mine made the South African olympic team when were at Uni. She was the SA high jump champion. She used medication for chronic sinusitis which had been cleared bu the SA Olympic committee and prescribed by their own doctor. The IOC did random drug test and she was chosen. She was banned because the fuckwits at the SA Olympic committee got it wrong and told her she could take Sinutab.

Reading about the drug it seems this and many other substances are on the list for the simple reason that they are found in recreational drugs, in this case methamphetamynes.

I hope its not intentional drug use but it doesn't look to be the case. I really hope its not an oversight by the SARU doctors. More incompetence I fear.

 

[Blue]

Look like Basson was put on Brute powder a bit to early by Chilli. This open the door for Strauss to take his spot in the team. Probably not good news for the Skotte and Poms.

Straight lineout throws. Yeah.

Actually Chilliboy has not been that bad this year. This is the first time I saw him chuck pies.

 

[rustycruiser]

Johan Goosen, the Craven Week Grey Bloem flyhalf signed by the Cheetahs got banned for the same stimulant just last month. He got a 3 month ban until the end of January. Presumably, Basson and Chilli will get the same length sentence from Saru.

 

[Scarfman]

What if there are more Boks on the ... Nasal Meth? Can we ban the whole squad for 3 months?

 

[Baldric]

What if there are more Boks on the ... Nasal Meth? Can we ban the whole squad for 3 months?

Only if we can get the coach banned too.

 

[fatprop]

South Africa coach Peter de Villiers fears the whole squad may have taken the substance that led to Bjorn Basson and Chiliboy Ralepelle failing doping tests.

Springboks doctor Craig Roberts also disclosed this morning (NZ time) that the players had been taking medication for flu symptoms before testing positive for the banned stimulant methylhexaneamine after beating Ireland on November 6.

Both players have the right to have their "B samples" tested.

Methylhexaneamine, which appears in some nutritional supplements, has been used by sprinters in athletics and is listed on the World Anti-Doping Agency's banned list as a "non-specified stimulant" and is due to be reclassified as a "specified stimulant" from January 1 2011.

De Villiers told South African broadcaster Supersport that some of the team's energy drinks have now been sent for testing.

De Villiers says that "we don't want to put the players at risk. If there is something that we are taking as a squad that might have caused this then we must find that out now."

Ralepelle, a hooker, and Basson, a winger, have been provisionally suspended from the team's European tour after failing the drug tests

Ralepelle had been earmarked as the first black person to captain the national team in the test arena.

Ever since Ralepelle led a Springbok XV against a World XV in Leicester in a non-cap international in 2006, he has been groomed to take over the captaincy on a permanent basis once the current crop of World Cup winners retire.

The 24-year-old Blue Bulls player made his full international debut earlier that year but has started just two tests since while making 16, usually brief, appearances off the bench.

Critics have claimed his selection is based more on the colour of his skin than his playing ability.

A series of injuries to his back, knee, calf and foot have also eaten into his playing time and Ralepelle conceded this year that he had tried to do too much too soon.

"I hurt my body and tried too hard to fit 80 minutes of rugby into the 10 or 20 minutes I was on the field as a substitute. It was because I was so desperate to show that I belong there," Ralepelle told the Sport24 website.

 

[Blue]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...illegal-drug-use/story-e6frea8c-1225942444608

NINE Australian athletes - some believed to be AFL players - face two-year bans after testing positive to the same illegal drug in the biggest doping scandal to hit Australian sport.

Authorities last night would not rule out Commonwealth Games athletes as being among those who returned positive tests, but refused to release names after an anti-doping blitz of the nation's professional sporting bodies.

It is believed NRL and AFL players may have also been among those who tested positive in what could become Australia's biggest doping scandal.

The Advertiser can reveal the nine athletes tested positive for the banned chemical stimulant methylhexaneamine, or DMAA, used in body building and dietary supplements and increasingly used as a component of some party drugs.

Australian doping authorities said the results were alarming and signalled a "massive" spike in positive tests for DMAA, which was included on the global banned list at the end of 2009.

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* Springbok duo fail drugs tests Adelaide Now, 1 hour ago
* Athletes driving blind on drugs Daily Telegraph, 26 Oct 2010
* Athletes warned of diet supplements Adelaide Now, 26 Oct 2010
* Not reading the label could be a costly error The Australian, 24 Oct 2010
* Sports drug bust shows spike in users Adelaide Now, 23 Oct 2010

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The testing period is believed to have covered this year's NRL and AFL grand finals and pre- and post-Commonwealth Games periods but not the 10 days of Games competition, which was covered by international anti-doping authorities.

The shock results last night prompted the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority to take the extraordinary measure of sending an urgent warning to all Australian athletes about inadvertent use of the substance.

SIMILAR clusters of positive tests to banned drugs are rare and only have come when testers identify a new product, such as the BALCO scandal that embroiled Sydney 2000 Olympic Games star US sprint queen Marion Jones.

There is concern that, with the London Olympics less than two years away and within the maximum ban time period, athletes may find themselves banned from competition by unknowingly taking the substance.

"It is a very large number in such a short period. That's why the warning has gone out," a source said.

DMAA is the same substance that cost Nigerian runner Osayomi Oludamola her Commonwealth Games gold medal - originally awarded under a cloud of controversy after Australian sprinter Sally Pearson was disqualified for jumping the gun in the 100m final.

ASADA chief executive Aurora Andruska last night confirmed nine athletes had tested positive for methylhexaneamine and were being investigated.

"This spike in positive test results is a reminder to all athletes to exercise utmost caution in checking the contents of supplements and other products they choose to use," she said.

"ASADA wants to get the warning out to the sporting community to be on the lookout for any supplement or product containing methylhexaneamine.

"Australian athletes must be very careful when using any supplement because, under the World Anti-Doping Code's policy of strict liability, athletes are responsible for any substance found in their body and we don't want to see Australians banned for methylhexaneamine."

Federal Sports Minister Mark Arbib urged Australian athletes to take extra precautions.

"The stimulant methylhexaneamine is appearing more and more in doping test results both here and overseas and has been linked to a number of popular supplements," he said.

"With the spike in the number of positive test results for methylhexaneamine in Australia, we are warning athletes to take extreme caution and double check the contents of any supplements and other products they use.

"The maximum sports ban for a first offence for methylhexaneamine is two years.

"I would hate to see an athlete receive a ban because they hadn't carefully checked the ingredients of a supplement."

The ASADA warning said that methylhexaneamine, also known as dimethylamylamine and dimethylpentylamine, was classed as an S6 stimulant on the World Anti-Doping Agency's Prohibited List for 2010 and is prohibited in-competition. In a rare official warning issued last night to athletes, ASADA said: "Athletes need to be aware that, under the policy of strict liability, they are responsible for any substance found in their body.

"Athletes using supplements do so at their own risk and, because of supplement manufacturing processes can lead to their contents varying from batch to batch, ASADA cannot advise if supplements contain prohibited substances.

"The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority is advising all Australian athletes subject to in-competition doping control to carefully consider their use of supplements and products containing methylhexaneamine."

ASADA is concerned many Australian athletes may be ingesting the chemical accidentally, unaware that otherwise harmless supplements may contain the substance, which often is not clearly identified in a product's list of ingredients.

 

[Blue]

What are all these guys taking?

 

[fatprop]

What are all these guys taking?

It appears that it is in either a protein/food supplement or a flu tablet.

ASADA is concerned many Australian athletes may be ingesting the chemical accidentally, unaware that otherwise harmless supplements may contain the substance, which often is not clearly identified in a product's list of ingredients.

 

[Doc]

Firstly, WADA needs to stop this 'inadvertent' doping rubbish and give these clowns serious bans. It has been a LONG time (Ben Johnson) since on banned substance has had such media and public attention as methylhexaneamine has in the last 3-4 years. FFS a player got banned in SA less than a month ago for the the same thing.

Secondly, this is NOT a case of a spiked product or "flu medication". There a dozens of over the counter supplements that have methylhexaneamine as an ingredient (a key one too). They are well know and amongst the biggest sellers world wide. You can almost guarantee the product the was Jack3d. The same the product the goose last month took and probably most of those Aussies that have tested positive. It is close to being the biggest seller in the world.

Thirdly, the entire management should get the chop. I know most South Africans have wanted this for a while but this gives them an easy out. EVERY player took whatever they did before the game. PDV said so himself. So not only are these clowns not checking what they are giving their players, they are giving to all of them. Its not one player sneaking stuff in their kit bag. What if the whole team were tested. They'd all be done.

Every single athlete knows this stuff that you have to get everything checked. You can only assume, especially given it was a 'team drink' that it was check and passed by some muppet.

These energy drinks should never have been near the dressing shed of a WADA controlled sport to begin with.

The reality is while this is not on a par with some other substances, it is still a violation of WADA policy and can only be interpreted as systematic use across the whole team.

 

[Doc]

ASADA is concerned many Australian athletes may be ingesting the chemical accidentally, unaware that otherwise harmless supplements may contain the substance, which often is not clearly identified in a product's list of ingredients.

While that is a romantic notion it is BS. Australia has some of the toughest labelling laws in the world. Even if they import a product from the USA and has the ingredient in a propriety blend, it is listed. A number of these athletes have named the supplements they got done take, often it is Jack3d (simply cause so popular and effective). The THIRD ingredient on the label is the banned one. It's not even hidden last or such. Search for the label online and see for self. Right there.

 

[Hartman]

Well Doc, that's true, but it's hardly the players' faults. Why should they be punished?

 

[Blue]

Because you have to draw a line somewhere. Everyone would use to excuse "but the Doc said it's okay". Unfortunately the buck has to stop somewhere. This thing looks like it could be a huge embarrassment for SARU.

 

[Boomer]

A pack of mungoes got done for use/abuse. Stillnox scandal anyone?

Use as a recreational drug

In New Zealand, methylhexanamine (under the name 1,3-dimethylamylamine or DMAA) is an emerging active ingredient of party pills [7], where it has replaced benzylpiperazine or BZP which has been illegal in that country since 2008. Serious adverse effects including headache, nausea, and stroke have been reported in recreational users of these products.[8] In November 2009, the New Zealand government indicated that methylhexanamine would be scheduled as a restricted substance.

 

[Doc]

Well Doc, that's true, but it's hardly the players' faults. Why should they be punished?

As Blue mentioned, if you can blame others no one would ever be punished. Heck, there is some evidence to suggest that amongst the East Germans and the like in the 70s and 80s genuinely didn't know they were receiving steroids, but they still have to pay the price. Players (and athletes in all tested) are drilled about personal responsibility. Also at the end of the day the only ones who failed to comply with the code were they players. Staff aren't tested.

 

[sevenpointdropgoal]

In addition to the supplements and cold and flu tablets, it's possible that some positive tests are the result of using the drug recreationally, and being unaware of it's WADA status. It's been floating around in various "herbal high" type tablets, particularly in New Zealand, ever since BZP and associated piperazines were scheduled. I've definitely seen league players using them (though not necessarily the ones with DMAA in them - they often just contain mega dosages of caffeine), usually to stay awake drinking. It's murky legality, multiple names, and, until recently, little known use in pro sport, means that many players wouldn't have recognized it even if confronted with it's common name.

In terms of names, I've seen it called DMAA, Forthan, Forthane, Floradrene, Geranamine, Geranium stem oil/extract, (1, 3)-Dimethylamylamine, Flower Oil, Enegyn, and N,N-Dimethylacetoacetamide (though the last one is technically incorrect as it's actually a different chemical which is used in industrial polymer synthesis, and as a pesticide). I've also seen it appear in a couple of smart powders/capsules without being named in the ingredients. When it is listed in supplements, it's usually referred too as Geranium stem extract, 1, 3-Dimethylamylamine, or Geranamine - for an example see here.

 

[PaarlBok]

This just sound way above any Brutes league. They should know better to stay with pap en sous. Bliksems.