Shute Shield 2012

[Dave Beat]

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Thanks HJ a pleasure to be aboard - Hey Knuckles you'd the place to be tomorrow has to be T G Milner . Some very interesting and much anticipated returns sitting on the bench including I believe, one E Gower, our new 10 and Katoni Ale off the bench in 2's where Cam Pyne also returns.

Yes TG tomorrow - lets hope its a strong showing

 

[lily]

I hope Ale does well. I remember his form for schoolboys, it was awesome. Unfortunately for him and the ARU he became injury prone as were his peers Coridas and Ma'a.

 

[Iluvmyfooty]

I believe Hingano plays his debut first grade game as well

 

[Dave Beat]

I believe Hingano plays his debut first grade game as well

Nah round one he had a start, and the final 20 against the highlanders

 

[lily]

Scott Daruda is playing for the Marlins today.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

The Balmain twitter account seem to think it's Sos Anesi.

If true it's not a bad pickup, but certainly not a game breaker. He is a solid player but hardly a star.

According to the ever reliable correspondent from the SMH, Mr X is Sos Anesi.

If true, then Barbar takes the bragging rights on behalf of the Balmain Boys.

Or is this just another part of the conspiracy?

 

[Budgie]

Does the points system apply to non wallaby ex Internationals or NZ S15 players/NPC Players?

 

[lily]

Does the points system apply to non wallaby ex Internationals or NZ S15 players/NPC Players?

Yes.

 

[2bluesfan]

OMG! That Parra GM will be pleased as Punch tonight as Sos Anesi (AKA Mr X) scored the winning try against a very competitive Penrith side in a seesawing free-scoring affair at Merrylands RSL Rugby Park today. 33-28.

Other scores
Uni 34 Easts 22
Eastwood 23 Manly 25
Souths 21 Norths 22
Wests 36 Warringah 19
Randwick 34 Gordon 33

 

[The Galah]

Scott Daruda is playing for the Marlins today.

Daruda was strong when he came on today mixed it up and kicked well , he will solve Marlins' problems at 10 . Katoni Ale came through his 30 mins or so in 2's well - strong as ever on the ball.
Norths win a bit of a surprise although maybe the signs were there against Easts

 

[lily]

The ABC commentator's have once again covered themselves with glory. They took the piss out of the Marlins in the first half vis a vis the last game played and how many minutes the inept Marlins took to score anypoints against Papworths team. Fucking disgraceful.Bill O'Reilly would be proud.

 

[Dave Beat]

The ABC commentator's have once again covered themselves with glory. They took the piss out of the Marlins in the first half vis a vis the last game played and how many minutes the inept Marlins took to score anypoints against Papworths team. Fucking disgraceful.Bill O'Reilly would be proud.

Sensational, yes 2 very different halves. Scott added direction, and poise, Gower was solid when he came on. How's Eddie looking?

 

[Thin Thighs]

The ABC commentator's have once again covered themselves with glory. They took the piss out of the Marlins in the first half vis a vis the last game played and how many minutes the inept Marlins took to score anypoints against Papworths team. Fucking disgraceful.Bill O'Reilly would be proud.

There is a fine line between impartiality, informed and objective commentary and outright tabloid style populist bias. Over the years the ABC, and the ABC sports department, has demonstrated a very proud record of the former. Of late the ABC Rugby coverage has let these fine standards slip a little.

Time to pull your socks up, brush your teeth, comb your hair and iron your shirt ABC.

While nothing beats basking in the winter sun at your local oval watching the boys do the do, we should be thankful for small graces and be happy that there is at least some rugby on FTA.

 

[The Galah]

There is a fine line between impartiality, informed and objective commentary and outright tabloid style populist bias. Over the years the ABC, and the ABC sports department, has demonstrated a very proud record of the former. Of late the ABC Rugby coverage has let these fine standards slip a little.

Time to pull your socks up, brush your teeth, comb your hair and iron your shirt ABC.

While nothing beats basking in the winter sun at your local oval watching the boys do the do, we should be thankful for small graces and be happy that there is at least some rugby on FTA.

Missed the commentary but who cares we do need the ABC because the Herald's Shute Shield coverage is woeful and essentially non existent apart from Growdens petty little rumour mill. BTW Papworth was most gracious away from the mike after the game and knows the Marlins are a threat . There are at least 3 teams well and truly in the hunt even with Uni about to become bloated with Super rugby returns. Hopefully Southerns can get their mojo back too . Shute Shield should keep us well and truly entertained now the Waratahs won't be taking up column space

 

[qwerty51]

Unless Souths get some Super rugby players back they'll keep losing. They've lost something like 10 players from the start of the season

 

[2bluesfan]

Thommo's match report of the Two Blues' last gasp win over Penrith is up on the Parra website. Well worth a read.

 

[Corne Uyc]

OMG! That Parra GM will be pleased as Punch tonight as Sos Anesi (AKA Mr X) scored the winning try against a very competitive Penrith side in a seesawing free-scoring affair at Merrylands RSL Rugby Park today. 33-28.

Other scores
Uni 34 Easts 22
Eastwood 23 Manly 25
Souths 21 Norths 22
Wests 36 Warringah 19
Randwick 34 Gordon 33

How is it that the referee of the Uni v Easts game is McKibbon's brother in-law. That can't be allowed even if he wasn't playing for them I don't reckon.

 

[p.Tah]

I hadn't realized how many players have been poached from Southern Districts. Eastwood has lost about four as well.

REINFORCEMENTS cannot come quick enough for Southern Districts, reeling from the loss of four top players to overseas clubs.
Souths were pipped 22-21 by Northern Suburbs last Saturday at Forshaw Rugby Park.

For the second consecutive weekend, they lost in all grades, but remain fourth in the Shute Shield. The defeats coincide with overseas rugby clubs poaching their young stars.

French and Japanese clubs have signed outstanding winger Nicky Price and half Dewet Roos; breakaway Sean Doyle has gone to Ulster and now fullback and captain Brackin Karauria-Henry (Japan) has played his last game of the season for Souths, too.

To make matters worse, the club's top half, Grayson Hart, who won his Super Rugby debut with the NSW Waratahs two weeks ago, has a broken hand.

Souths will be boosted by the return of Tetera Faulkner, Kane Douglas and skipper John Ulugia from Super Rugby duty in time to play Manly (away) this weekend.

Other team changes include Ben Volavola to start at fullback and forwards Sami Latunipulu and Tim Metcher also named.

The side will be without Sitaleki Timani who alongside Douglas was named in an extended Wallabies squad to play Test matches against New Zealand, South Africa and Argentina later this year.

Souths' manager Darren Bray is one of many club officials critical of the lack of rules preventing overseas clubs from poaching players from club rugby — especially at a critical time leading up to the finals.

"It is something that the ARU has to look at for the future," he said. "All these players are our top under 23s who have either come through our colts system or thrived since joining us a few years ago.

"We don't begrudge them getting some money o.s., but us the clubs don't get a cent, and that is wrong; transfer fees should apply."

Tongan outside back Wil Helu played for Souths' second grade on Saturday and could be in the running for a start in first grade soon.

After Manly, Souths will tackle Eastwood (home), Easts (away), then have a bye before travelling to Sydney University for the last game before the Shield finals.

http://www.theleader.com.au/news/local/sport/rugby-union/poachers-grab-fab-four/2629941.aspx

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Interesting topic raised by Mr Bray from the Hobbits - Transfer fees for clubs.

When players are not on contract to clubs, and there is plenty of post season movement between Shute Shield clubs, and interstate to Brisvegas and Disneyland, how would a transfer system be applied?

What actual value do the Shute Shield clubs add to a player if they are only there for one or two seasons?

Many clubs have very few players in their senior teams that have come up through that clubs junior village clubs and colts pathways. Many people would argue that Schools (in Sydney at least) do most of the player development, and perhaps they should get some $ when their players graduate into the clubs Colts programmes etc.... Where do you stop?

Should SRU get the transfer fee? It is their competition that the players are getting noticed in. They need to cover their costs somehow, after they have covered their costs then the balance of the transfer payments money could be distributed to clubs on a pro rata basis.

 

[Dave Beat]

Interesting topic raised by Mr Bray from the Hobbits - Transfer fees for clubs.

When players are not on contract to clubs, and there is plenty of post season movement between Shute Shield clubs, and interstate to Brisvegas and Disneyland, how would a transfer system be applied?

What actual value do the Shute Shield clubs add to a player if they are only there for one or two seasons?

Many clubs have very few players in their senior teams that have come up through that clubs junior village clubs and colts pathways. Many people would argue that Schools (in Sydney at least) do most of the player development, and perhaps they should get some $ when their players graduate into the clubs Colts programmes etc.. Where do you stop?

Should SRU get the transfer fee? It is their competition that the players are getting noticed in. They need to cover their costs somehow, after they have covered their costs then the balance of the transfer payments money could be distributed to clubs on a pro rata basis.

Yes interesting it impacts
Club Rugby
Super Rugby
ARU.
I do think growth from the bottom up - a high quality first division comp will provide the foundations and pillars to greater depth with the Australian side. Solution - hey i dont know?
Is there much of an over lap with seasons?