Shute Shield 2011

[Bruce Ross]

How was the forwards battle ? Is it true Chris Alcock played ?

In a word, waves, torrid. Scrums and lineouts were fairly well matched, but Uni were very aggressive at the breakdown, frequently forcing Eastwood back behind the advantage line.

I was told that Alcock did play.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

Manly beat Parra 3 tries to 1 in terrible conditions.

 

[blues recovery]

Really was terrible and the conditions didnt allow a great evaluation but was great to see a parra team with still at least 7 first graders to come in compete so strongly with a very strong manly team. very encouraging especially the forward defence and commitment at the breakdown and i guess just the general attitude. One win will do amazing things for this club

 

[yellow card]

Gordon 4 tries to 2 over wests

 

[Parra GM]

Gordon 4 tries to 2 over wests

Did Harvey play for Gordon or Eastwood?

 

[PTB]

gordon

 

[yellow card]

Havey didnt play for gordon but he was there to watch

 

[Parra GM]

Havey didnt play for gordon but he was there to watch

sounds like there's a bit of trouble in paradise

 

[brynylon]

Easts 3 tries to nil over Norths.

 

[Parra GM]

Easts 3 tries to nil over Norths.

Easts seem to be in a bit of early season form

 

[brynylon]

Easts had last years Souths 10 Kurt Morath and his young brother Jonnie in their team.Apparently the young one is highly rated in New Zealand.

 

[Parra GM]

Easts had last years Souths 10 Kurt Morath and his young brother Jonnie in their team.Apparently the young one is highly rated in New Zealand.

Both those guys are Tonga eligible and Kurt has even played for Tonga. With Tonga currently off playing on the PNC (Pacific Nations Cup) its interesting their not in the squad

 

[lily]

I didn't notice kurt doing anything of value in last years semi against Uni. Possibly because he had Barnes opposite him.

 

[blindsider]

what position is he???
Randwick stated they are not paying any players this year....
i doubt they can afford $1500 a game. Thats a load of rubbish.

Samu Wara to Randwick from Easts (ACT) - according to a board member they are willing to pay him quite a bit per match, and thus we had no hope of retaining him.

Almost a case of deja vu for us, Henry Vanderglas went in similar fashion to Randwick...

 

[blindsider]

Randwick 1sts played the brumby runners/a side.
were beaten very convincingly.
Brumby's had the bye so had plenty of the super15 guys playing....

 

[AussieDominance]

Are you kidding me? Paying Players is a very broad word every club does it. Either it be through Sponsors(not on club books) or accounting it for other things such as coaching, travel expenses, fees paid etc.

Randwick, before Southern Districts came along with Maloney were the most willing of the lot to pay 'big money'. Uni offer players pretty reasonable coin before they make a name for themselves but that is not out of club money the Uni Sports Foundation offer support in that way.

Easts are right up there as well. You only have to look at the clubs who attract the players coming from interstate into the Waratahs programs to realise this.

The only one recently who hasn't got to this 'net' is Dud Roodt who went to Gordon because of a very good connection within South Africa that Gordon have and they got him a car from a Sponsor.

 

[Empire]

what position is he???
Randwick stated they are not paying any players this year....
i doubt they can afford $1500 a game. Thats a load of rubbish.

That's why he won't be with us this year. I doubt you'd go to Sydney after settling in Canberra for the fun of it. $1500 a game will, however, make that boring drive up the highway worthwhile.
That figure was passed on by a member of our clubs board - I trust him.

Wara, if you bothered to do any research, is an outside back. And a good one at that - naturally great step and instinctive.

 

[Empire]

Oh, and Manly throw 3 grand at 1st colts players - let alone 1st graders.

Before you start labelling things 'rubbish' go and do some research.

 

[blindsider]

i know guys get paid at all clubs, i just think that it gets blown out of proportion.. I just spoke to a board member at randwick rugby club who is also a close personal friend about this, and he hadnt even heard of the guy (samu wara) so as for getting paid $1500 a week, i think thats been exaggerated...
i see a problem (as gordon & wests are facing now and souths will soon) when you pay players, everyone expects it. When the sponsor or benefactor decides after a few years to pull the money, lots of players leave (see wests and gordon 2011) chasing money elsewhere.
A couple of years ago one club coach almost sent 2 clubs in 2 years broke because of his player spending...(neither club won the comp or club championship)
I heard in 2008 guys in 3rd grade at parramatta were getting coin!! hahahah. no wonder parra leagues pulled out...
also, some guys will lie on their resume, get paid by a club, but be no good, so the club are almost trying to validate/justify them paying him by playing the bloke in higher grades...

Are you kidding me? Paying Players is a very broad word every club does it. Either it be through Sponsors(not on club books) or accounting it for other things such as coaching, travel expenses, fees paid etc.

Randwick, before Southern Districts came along with Maloney were the most willing of the lot to pay 'big money'. Uni offer players pretty reasonable coin before they make a name for themselves but that is not out of club money the Uni Sports Foundation offer support in that way.

Easts are right up there as well. You only have to look at the clubs who attract the players coming from interstate into the Waratahs programs to realise this.

The only one recently who hasn't got to this 'net' is Dud Roodt who went to Gordon because of a very good connection within South Africa that Gordon have and they got him a car from a Sponsor.

 

[AussieDominance]

Here are a few articles for everyones interest :

Souths gains - http://www.rugbynews.org/sport/rugbynews.nsf/AdminMainNews/3
Eastwood's gains(Harvey's situation) - http://www.rugbynews.org/sport/rugbynews.nsf/AdminMainNews/4
Manly's gains - http://www.rugbynews.org/sport/rugbynews.nsf/AdminMainNews/9