Queensland Reds 2025
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Replace with 4. Canham 10. Gordon 12. Paisami. If Stewart is signing then push Paisami, and Flook out one. Lynagh might head back home.
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Stan Wickham (3)
Is Petaia sticking around?
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Mark Ella (57)
Happy Tuesday
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Ryan Smith and Josh FLook re-sign with the Queensland Reds
The Queensland Reds are delighted to announce the re-signing of Ryan Smith and Josh Flook, both milestone figures who hit 50 caps for the club this season.
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Mark Ella (57)
Honestly I don’t see what everyone else sees in Canham. Good young player and may well be a test player in the future but I don’t personally see him in the top 5-6 locks at the moment and I wouldn’t have him ahead of Smith. Smith has been as good as any lock in the comp this year.
I’m also holding in to Lynagh. He’s done well this year and is only going to get better over the next 2-3. If that means we aren’t in the hunt for Gordon, so be it.
I’m also holding in to Lynagh. He’s done well this year and is only going to get better over the next 2-3. If that means we aren’t in the hunt for Gordon, so be it.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
There is a lot of grass is greener vibes from some posters who want a Rebels injection into the side.
It will be interesting to see how much RA try and push certain players who are currently contracted for 2025 into sides, or whether they'll be happy to let the process play out organically.
Funny how in the space of really 18months Taniela has gone from the flagship Australian forward to being viewed as a large expense without much upside. I can't see him returning to the Reds.
It will be interesting to see how much RA try and push certain players who are currently contracted for 2025 into sides, or whether they'll be happy to let the process play out organically.
Funny how in the space of really 18months Taniela has gone from the flagship Australian forward to being viewed as a large expense without much upside. I can't see him returning to the Reds.
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Mark Ella (57)
To clarify my comment - I’d certainly take Canham with both hands. Looks a good young player with plenty of upside and is going to be an upgrade on guys like Vest & Daly. Squad depth is a massive thing.
But at this point in 2024 I’m not tipping Ryan Smith out of my 2025 starting side, for all that that’s worth.
But at this point in 2024 I’m not tipping Ryan Smith out of my 2025 starting side, for all that that’s worth.
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Greg Davis (50)
The only reason I would be looking at bringing in another established lock is so Uru is able to play in the back row.
It's hard to say how Wright or Wilson's bodies will hold up next year and I think we've seen a physicality/impact of Urus game this year that Brial and Bryant (hits the line hard but doesn't bend it like Wilson or Uru) don't have just yet.
Gordon is a tough one. As both a BBC and West's man, I'd love for him to be at the Reds. But I'm seeing positive signs with Lynagh and HMP to say we should stick with them. Having Tate and Hunter either side of them is the best place they can develop if you ask me.
I'd welcome Flipio to come back home instead of Vunivalu, but my guess is hell want to go overseas.
But we need a centre and a outside back considering JOC (James O'Connor), Henry and Petaia's injury record's.
It's hard to say how Wright or Wilson's bodies will hold up next year and I think we've seen a physicality/impact of Urus game this year that Brial and Bryant (hits the line hard but doesn't bend it like Wilson or Uru) don't have just yet.
Gordon is a tough one. As both a BBC and West's man, I'd love for him to be at the Reds. But I'm seeing positive signs with Lynagh and HMP to say we should stick with them. Having Tate and Hunter either side of them is the best place they can develop if you ask me.
I'd welcome Flipio to come back home instead of Vunivalu, but my guess is hell want to go overseas.
But we need a centre and a outside back considering JOC (James O'Connor), Henry and Petaia's injury record's.
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Trevor Allan (34)
I wouldn't be trying that hard to get Gordon home (Lynagh and HMP are a good 1/2 option) and feel he would be better utilised at the tahs. That said, if QLD is where he wants to be then sure.
Unlike others I would take Tupou back. I don't know if JTA can play both sides, but presumably he can and we shouldn't be re-signing Peni Ravai (as much as I like him) and it's possible Fa'agase won't get re-signed. De Lutis we need to hang on to but he needs games in QLD tour matches, challenger series and Prems (wasn't great against bottom placed Norths on the weekend).
Canham would be a big upgrade on Daly. Vest and Blyth are signed for 25. I suspect Uru will become a backrower primarily in 25. Vest maybe as well.
Unlike others I would take Tupou back. I don't know if JTA can play both sides, but presumably he can and we shouldn't be re-signing Peni Ravai (as much as I like him) and it's possible Fa'agase won't get re-signed. De Lutis we need to hang on to but he needs games in QLD tour matches, challenger series and Prems (wasn't great against bottom placed Norths on the weekend).
Canham would be a big upgrade on Daly. Vest and Blyth are signed for 25. I suspect Uru will become a backrower primarily in 25. Vest maybe as well.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Any sign of Liam Wright's signature yet? With Uru, Wilson and McReight already signed he's in a tough spot for Reds and Wallabies. 4 into 3 doesn't go, especially if the lock stocks improve and Uru eyes backrow.
I could see him holding off until some of the test matches are played this year to try and earn a Wallaby top-up, but that has it's own risks
I could see him holding off until some of the test matches are played this year to try and earn a Wallaby top-up, but that has it's own risks
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Tim Horan (67)
At what cost though? He can be a great asset. And if the cost then impacts investment in other players, I'd suggest there may be better homes for him.
We seem to suggest that the option is yes or no for Tupou. The reality is likely to be yes - with a mandate to no elsewhere. With fixed overall funding it's that second part that is problematic. Though it seems to me that he needs to be prepared to work harder than he was under Stiles. I'm also not currently convinced of his "leadership".
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Andrew Slack (58)
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Peter Johnson (47)
Smith, Blyth, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) & Vest + Maybe Canham. I wonder if Daly will go back to NSW.
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Herbert Moran (7)
RA pays *half* of a contracted player's salary, not *most*. So if Tupou is on ~$800k then Reds are up for $400k - which is at least one (maybe even two) Peni Ravis.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
I could be misinformed, but I'm not sure it's as clear-cut as RA contributing half (or the RA top up effectively doubling a player's salary)
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Greg Davis (50)
Taniela has essentially had 2 years away from playing at his best level.
I would prefer we support Zane's development and provide him and JTA support rather than squeezing either of them out.
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Tim Horan (67)
Are you suggesting that lack of clarity errs on the side of RA contributing more? I'd always assumed with the term "top up" that the bulk of the funds came from the State Union.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Each player is different, and the contracting approach by RA changes through the years, but the "packages" leaked to the press usually include all forecast match payments for the contract length and other allowances like attending Wallaby squads etc.
So to take ~$800k per year for Taniala (no idea if that's true)....~$150k of that will be payments at risk, only if he plays for Wallabies.
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Tim Horan (67)
Apols, but I'm not following how this answers my query. Are we saying that $800k would be $650 (fixed) from the Reds?
All I'm pondering is the degree to which on-boarding a "name" player then reduces fund availability for others.