Brumbies 2012

[Ash]

Brief digression to the University rankings - I always found it interesting that ANU managed to do so well with their research to be well ranked internationally. I do think it's good for the nation's capital to have an internationally renowned university, and am impressed they managed to become the best in Aus with a much lower potential local student base.

Here's a highlight of the top Aus Unis (disclosure: I'm a little biased, I have an honours degree from one of them (not ANU), worked as a research assistant in another (not ANU), sort of work in a research field, and the company I work for does do collaborations with universities):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Eight_(Australian_universities)

In saying all that (and this is not to besmirch the ANU - they are recognised as the top research uni in Aus for a reason), I find the way that the rankings are done is often not really reflective of quality of the academic research of the unis. Not saying the rankings are wrong, but rather that the methodology isn't great. However, blowed if I know

 

[Bruce Ross]

Bruce was kind of close with "who are" for pinyin hua - possibly "hugh wah" pronounced Australian style (ie quickly like the shortening of good day) might be aceptable but you will find many regional variations.

Thanks for that, lincoln. If I was close it was pure arse.

 

[mudskipper]

Brief digression to the University rankings - I always found it interesting that ANU managed to do so well with their research to be well ranked internationally. I do think it's good for the nation's capital to have an internationally renowned university, and am impressed they managed to become the best in Aus with a much lower potential local student base.

Here's a highlight of the top Aus Unis (disclosure: I'm a little biased, I have an honours degree from one of them (not ANU), worked as a research assistant in another (not ANU), sort of work in a research field, and the company I work for does do collaborations with universities):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Eight_(Australian_universities)

In saying all that (and this is not to besmirch the ANU - they are recognised as the top research uni in Aus for a reason), I find the way that the rankings are done is often not really reflective of quality of the academic research of the unis. Not saying the rankings are wrong, but rather that the methodology isn't great. However, blowed if I know

So? Sydney Uni is old, poorly set up and has a very small campus... ANU has a good size campus with excellent facilities... for all...

 

[Jnor]

I can't speak for ANU but in my experience none of those things are correct re Sydney Uni

 

[mudskipper]

Brumbies hammer Force in pre-season match

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/6368963/Brumbies-hammer-Force-in-pre-season-match

Brumbies coach Jake White has enjoyed a dream start with his new Super Rugby side after they cruised to a 25-0 trial victory over the Western Force at Rugby Park in Darwin.

In what was the first trial match of the year for both teams, the wet and windy conditions contributed to an error-riddled performance.

The Brumbies were first on the scoreboard when lock Ben Hand breached the Force's defence to touch down late in the first quarter.

The Brumbies' second try came after the Canberra-based side strung together seven phases before inside centre Christian Lealiifano crossed, while five-eighth Zack Holmes booted three first-half penalties to extend the lead.


The Western Australian side showed more composure in the third quarter, however the Brumbies defence held firm despite being restricted to 14 men when flanker Peter Kimlin was sent to the sin bin for a late shoulder charge.

Workhorse Brumbies prop Jerry Yanuyanutawa was prominent for the Brumbies before taking a heavy knock and coming off the field after 30 minutes, while Nic White slotted two second-half penalties to complete the emphatic win.

"I am really pleased - we put a lot of effort in," White said.
"The Brumbies haven't won for a while ... it doesn't matter if it's a trial game, doesn't matter if people think it's meaningless, all those little wins, all those little bonuses help you move forward.

"The bottom line is to have two teams playing, one team scored 14 points and doesn't concede any and one team scores 11 points and doesn't concede any what more does a coach want?
"The Force are always going to be a good side obviously there were a lot of things we let slip in the beginning but I thought the enthusiasm and energy was good."

Western Force coach Richard Graham said his team lacked the physicality that the Brumbies brought to tonight's game.
"(The Brumbies) physicality was very good," he said.

"They defended well and worked the tackle. You could see a strong South African influence - their forwards were very direct, very aggressive."

\The Force spurned the opportunity to take penalty goals, instead preferring to give their scrum a chance to show their skills.
"The result was not necessarily important to us - we want to win, but the whole reason we came here was to play as much rugby as we possibly could," he said.

"(We wanted to) put our set piece under pressure and then see how we attack and defend off the back of it.
"I was very happy with our young back row."/QUOTE]

 

[Slim 293]

Interesting selection tactic, I hope he's OK... I'd also like to see Holmes given a crack at fullback too...

Brumbies edgy about Coleman's injury

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Chris Dutton
February 6, 2012


The ACT Brumbies will seek specialist advice regarding Robbie Coleman's sternum injury and hope it will not cripple the talented back's start to the Super Rugby season.

Coleman will return to Canberra today after re-injuring his sternum in the Brumbies' trial victory over the Western Force in Darwin on Saturday night.

A thoracic specialist will determine how severe the damage is and whether he requires surgery.

It's a huge blow to the young Brumbies just 18 days out from the start of the season.

The coach, Jake White, was grooming Coleman as a possible option at fullback for the round one clash with the Force on February 24 at Canberra Stadium.

The 21-year-old fractured his sternum at the end of last season, and was eased back into pre-season training.

The fracture had healed, but Brumbies medical staff want to ensure his sternum is stable before reintroducing him to training.

"We just want to make sure we give him the best medical advice," White said. "We don't think it's a recurring thing … rather than be silly we told him to go back and see what the thoracic surgeons say.

"He's been training and taking knocks and nothing [happened] so we just want to make sure everything is OK there."

With no definite time frame on Coleman's recovery, White might have to promote a player from his extended squad to begin the season.

The ARU pays for each Australian team to have five extended squad players on their rosters and they can be used when there are injuries to the top 30.

Coleman made his Super Rugby debut last season at inside-centre but White believed the Queanbeyan junior would benefit from having more time and space at fullback.

The Brumbies have four forwards and only one back, Jesse Mogg, in their extended squad.

"It's a massive blow when you lose a guy from a squad of 30 - it's tough when you haven't started the competition," White said.

"Then you can say thank goodness the ARU supplies the EPS players because it gives you the opportunity to have back-up players. If we didn't have the EPS players we would really be struggling."

 

[Ash]

So? Sydney Uni is old, poorly set up and has a very small campus... ANU has a good size campus with excellent facilities... for all...

Er, if you are going to say that about Australia's oldest uni (especially using "old as a criticism for a uni, or particular for anything, really - what a load of rubbish), I suggest you have some proof - especially going on your past comment that "ANU is bigger", when it has 1/3 the students of Syd Uni. Have you attended both to compare? Really, your "Canberra is great, everything else sucks" bias is quite tiring, especially when it's on things you clearly know little about. And personally, I prefer the appearance of the old "sandstone universities" - USyd's campus is quite attractive and of considerable size, considering it's inner city Sydney. I wouldn't call it "very small" at all. I know it might be hard, but perhaps you should only comment on things you know about.

Incidentally, regarding competency and running of unis, I think most unis are poorly run. Every uni I've been involved in has been pretty incompetent at some managerial level.

 

[Clawhammer]

Er, if you are going to say that about Australia's oldest uni (especially using "old as a criticism for a uni, or particular for anything, really - what a load of rubbish), I suggest you have some proof - especially going on your past comment that "ANU is bigger", when it has 1/3 the students of Syd Uni. Have you attended both to compare? Really, your "Canberra is great, everything else sucks" bias is quite tiring, especially when it's on things you clearly know little about. And personally, I prefer the appearance of the old "sandstone universities" - USyd's campus is quite attractive and of considerable size, considering it's inner city Sydney. I wouldn't call it "very small" at all. I know it might be hard, but perhaps you should only comment on things you know about.

Incidentally, regarding competency and running of unis, I think most unis are poorly run. Every uni I've been involved in has been pretty incompetent at some managerial level.

Equally, why did you bother raising your views of the relative merits of University ranking systems in a threat that's meant to be about the Brumbies? Surely all this crap belongs in a thread of its own because it has nothing to do with rugby.

 

[hench]

Pardon the non rugby talk that has been going on here but who will be the Brumbies fly half? Lilo?

 

[mudskipper]

nice quadrangle... nice place for a pinic...

 

[mudskipper]

Pardon the non rugby talk that has been going on here but who will be the Brumbies fly half? Lilo?

yes back to rugby speak... looks like To'omua will play flyhalf with Lealiifano at 12 for most matches...

 

[Ash]

Equally, why did you bother raising your views of the relative merits of University ranking systems in a threat that's meant to be about the Brumbies? Surely all this crap belongs in a thread of its own because it has nothing to do with rugby.

Dearest Clawhammer,

My apologies for a brief digression that was continuing a previous brief digression, I didn't realise it was not allowed on this forum.

Next time I will run it by you, seeing as you obviously set the forum rules. In fact, I will ask to you to personally vet all my posts as it's obvious I can't stay on topic and require you to tell me if I stray.

Can you please accept my humble apology?

Or perhaps even better yet, when discussion briefly digresses for a couple of short posts, then returns to topic, perhaps you can skip over it and keep your rude attitude to yourself?

Yes. I think I like the previous paragraph the most, so I take back my humble apology, but I have decided I won't wait with baited breath for your rude attitude to go.

And ironically, my digression started because of mudskipper's completely just as unrelated cheap shot at other universities, so perhaps you might want to take it up with him as well, and the rest of the people who posted comparing unis.

Screw you,Love,
Ash

 

[hench]

yes back to rugby speak... looks like To'omua will play flyhalf with Lealiifano at 12 for most matches...

Cheers.

 

[Ash]

yes back to rugby speak... looks like To'omua will play flyhalf with Lealiifano at 12 for most matches...

I think 12 might end up being Lealiifano's best position. With that combo you'd want a strong runner at 13, though, to play off their distribution game and add some bulk to the inside backs. Who's the favourite? McCabe? Then Tomane and Andrew Smith? Did Tomane get a shot at centre in the trial, or was he wing only?

 

[mudskipper]

Interestingly it sounds like the big fijian chap Kuridrani had a run at 12... He's a completely different player more like Mortlock big hard running unit, so I'd expect to see Jake White mix it up a bit when sizing up the opposition...

 

[Lee Grant]

My apologies for a brief digression that was continuing a previous brief digression, I didn't realise it was not allowed on this forum.

Not allowed? It's encouraged.
.

 

[Brumby Jack]

Jake White has stated that Matt To'omua will be the starting flyhalf this season.

This will give the team more stability and importantly To'omua will gain some confidence after that 'tri-half' fiasco from last year.

 

[mudskipper]

Yep Matt's a great talent.. he's done the of years up training at the brumbies.. he now needs a good coach and mentor to stand with him and he has that in White and Larkham... and he'll do well... a very skillful and astute player... go get them Matt... not enough good OZ halves in S15 rugby... you'll be a Wallaby before you know it with some solid work and game time...

 

[Lee Grant]

I see that Fotu Auelua arrives in Canberra tomorrow.

I wonder what shape he is in.

 

[mudskipper]

I see that Fotu Auelua arrives in Canberra tomorrow.

I wonder what shape he is in.

Just arrived... As I understand he had an injury but may have returned to play for his NTT semis club before coming across... Likely not play in trial matches.. well see...

He's a good seasoned addition to the squad... he's returned to see if he can be Wallaby... thats his aim...