Argentina v Australia, 8am Sunday 1 Sep (AEST) - TRC Round 3

[cyclopath]

I think a special shout out to Carlo Tizzano (should be Carlos, The Jackal, amirite?) for taking an opportunity with McReight's absence. For a guy that was deemed too small by many pundits, he has aimed up superbly and done all that was expected and more in these Tests. Cracking game last night.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Just watched the mini on STAN. Strange that nobody has questioned the rolling maul try to Argentina. There is a definite truck and trailer after the initial maul disintegrates and it directly leads to the try. The Argentine ball carrier is shielded by another player going backwards to the try line. There is no Wallaby connected to that group of players and Frost joins before the tryline and attempts to tackle the player shielding the ball carrier. In my eyes, that was clear obstruction and should have been a penalty to the Wallabies.

 

[TSR]

Well done Wallabies.

While there is still a long way to go good to see Schmidt is getting increasing traction with his game plan and it yielded a result for us today.

 

[Yoda]

I think a special shout out to Carlo Tizzano (should be Carlos, The Jackal, amirite?) for taking an opportunity with McReight's absence. For a guy that was deemed too small by many pundits, he has aimed up superbly and done all that was expected and more in these Tests. Cracking game last night.

Yes… good comment. “Deemed Too small by many pundits“…. just goes to show you … that many pundits are dead set Neville’s as the great Fatty Vautin would say… Great stuff young Carlo…

 

[Yoda]

Just watched the mini on STAN. Strange that nobody has questioned the rolling maul try to Argentina. There is a definite truck and trailer after the initial maul disintegrates and it directly leads to the try. The Argentine ball carrier is shielded by another player going backwards to the try line. There is no Wallaby connected to that group of players and Frost joins before the tryline and attempts to tackle the player shielding the ball carrier. In my eyes, that was clear obstruction and should have been a penalty to the Wallabies.

Strange too that no one questioned Jake Gordon’s try off a blatant forward pass. I know they checked it but it must have been Stevie Wonder looking at it! Nice to get a dubious one go our way! Not so lucky the All Blacks with one of the Saffers tries a lost ball and not grounded.

 

[KOB1987]

Doran on his podcast today said he spoke to Schmidt for 10 to 15 minutes after the game.

He said Schmidt was pretty satisfied with how Lolesio went, and Schmidt responded to questions about some of Lolesio's play, that he was pleased to see him try a few things even if they didn't come off.

Which is strange, even Brumby Runner conceded he was worst on ground. I remember after Harry Wilson’s first test back, he described his performance as ‘super’. While most thought he was satisfactory, that seemed a bit of an overstatement. I think we just need to concede that Joe is looking for different things than the rest of us are used to here, and TBH with no other clear answer at 10 I don’t mind the stick and pick approach. However, even if just for the experience and the plan B I think he should be giving Donaldson more minutes, assuming he perceives him as the understudy. I do think perhaps that is where he has Lynagh though, he might ultimately have him at the top of the order.

 

[Rugby follower]

Strange too that no one questioned Jake Gordon’s try off a blatant forward pass. I know they checked it but it must have been Stevie Wonder looking at it! Nice to get a dubious one go our way! Not so lucky the All Blacks with one of the Saffers tries a lost ball and not grounded.

I watched that try numerous times , I thought initially it was forward but all passes were backwards out of the hand. Not sure what the all blacks safa game has anything to do with this mornings game.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Which is strange, even Brumby Runner conceded he was worst on ground.

Rugby pass pundit gave Lolesio an 8. There does appear to be a lot of people who rate Lolesio's play a lot higher than your average greenandgolder


(Not he least being Schmidt himself)

 

[dru]

Rugby pass pundit gave Lolesio an 8.

8? Wow.

 

[Strewthcobber]

8? Wow.

Apparently the pundit is none other than former-All Black Ben Smith

 

[Yoda]

8? Wow.

No way. 6 tops. 5.5 fair.

 

[rugbyAU]

Rugby pass pundit gave Lolesio an 8. There does appear to be a lot of people who rate Lolesio's play a lot higher than your average greenandgolder


(Not he least being Schmidt himself)

they're usually generous with their player ratings, planet rugby a bit more accurate

 

[Strewthcobber]

Just watched the mini on STAN. Strange that nobody has questioned the rolling maul try to Argentina.

I don't have a problem with that one. For me that was all the same maul, just all the Australian players fell away from it. Play on, and well worked try

(And back to the drawing board for the coach)

 

[TSR]

I must admit having not got a chance to watch the second half until this afternoon and then reading the comments on her afterwards I think the criticism of Lolesio on here is overdone.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Single worst play of the day award goes to Nick Frost at 65:30 for looking out the right at the crowd while the Argentinian strolled straight past him on the left for what would have been the match winning try

 

[kiap]

Apparently the pundit is none other than former-All Black Ben Smith

Dunno, might not be him?

The name Ben Smith wouldn't be unique or rare.

 

[Dctarget]

Dunno, might not be him?

The name Ben Smith wouldn't be unique or rare.

Ben Smith is a NZ journalist known for pissing off South African fans, he’s not the former All Black.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Dunno, might not be him?

The name Ben Smith wouldn't be unique or rare.

I actually don't think it's him. I did some poor googling and assumed the rugby pass player profile was also his journo profile.

 

[John S]

A Doleman classic at the death there.

Donaldson running down the clock to pop the winning kick over and ref is "yeh there's time for a restart, yes, yes, we'll be having a restart, what's that, yes, yes, that's what I just said, still time for a restart after the kick, yes, yes, I've told the players, yes, I've told both captains, yes, still plenty of time for a restart", bloke kicks it over "oh, time's up, that's 80 minutes, fulltime now, clock says time's up, no more time sorry, game's over sorry, oh what I said before yeah nah clock says times up, oh before, no, that was 79 minutes but clock says 80 minutes now which means times up yeah, nah ok sorry fulltime

Old mate had a cup of tea waiting for him in the sheds, couldn't let it get cold

 

[molman]

Rugby pass pundit gave Lolesio an 8. There does appear to be a lot of people who rate Lolesio's play a lot higher than your average greenandgolder


(Not he least being Schmidt himself)

That's a upper end Distinction in the old uni system, a high B, in the common schooling system, I think someone needs to calibrate their scale, but then we're all due our opinions.

The only ones which really matter at the end of the day are Joes (his genuine opinions that he'll be sharing with the players, not his public facing comments) and the rest of the coaching team.