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  1. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Which will ultimately compromise the competition, but i'm not sure whether NZ especially with 2 new pacific teams, who will no doubt source some of there playing stock from NZ based players will be prepared to lose more potential players. We're adding 60/65 players from our region, that alone is...
  2. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Genuinely have mixed feelings about this comp, while domestic would have always been the better options, the fact of just 5 teams and the top down structure of the game here was always going to make that choice a bridge to far, add an RA board that never looked like it had the vision, desire or...
  3. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Highly possible, but thats the catch 22 of Australian rugby, hostage to some potential foreign broadcaster. As the game slowly declines domestically how long can you hold onto that path. Its like a drug addict knowing that long term it will kill you. We constantly hear lip service from the RA...
  4. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Don't agree with everything he says, but Alan Jones this morning in the Australian mentions that report and says it is crazy Australia is not gong it alone, amongst all this crap over the last few weeks right smack in the middle a full TT is announced, it beggars belief how weak it makes RA...
  5. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Its not that far fetched. 13's League, yes not a chance. But we are talking Brisbane hosting and commercial realities, league has political sway in NSW & QLD. So maybe 9's or Aus tag could potentially be promoted as an exibition sport. Similar to 7,s a three day tournament during the Olympics...
  6. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    First I'd heard of League looking at the Olympics, really thats a pretty long shot what audience would they be chasing, just can't see it happening, in fact the thought of a bunch of league fellas running around the Olympic village.
  7. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I have always found it intriguing regards Australian rugby, that its barometer of success is to be essentially the best in the world, a ranking of 1 or 2 is considered a pass mark. But it lacks the self confidence to even think of growth in the next suburb. We're forever yelling World Champions...
  8. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    https://www.fijivillage.com/news/Confirmation-of-a-full-Super-Rugby-licence-for-the-Fijian-Drua-is-close---Thorburn-4r8fx5/ Well it looks like Fiji are close, with Aus as its base.
  9. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Or alternativy, just run seperate cmpetitions alongside eachother and in Australia's case invite PE investment, you would soon achieve a far better competition. A committee set up by a comittee with its own agendas, yep good luck with that.
  10. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    You know what Dan, why don't we just go our seperate ways and meet for Test rugby. Surely that is the best option, if the RA are incompetent so be it let them go bust. As you say the WORLD is your market, why bother with Aus. And I agree its bullshit grassroots NZ rugby should pay for anything...
  11. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    But you are turning the pnnacle into a 6 pack & pizza. Playing 3 tests a year against NZ in the long run just diminishes the occasion, it may be a money spinner but every year you slightly cheapen the event. In the long run you ultimately lessen its value. The pyramid is upside down when your...
  12. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    And of course there open to an 8 team final series, chances are the 5 NZ franchises will be in that 8, plus we have to stop calling them conferences, they are seperate comps.
  13. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    To me that highlights the importance of having a genuine domestic product to take advantage of any spike in interest these events create. As stand alone events they are just that, sugar hits. Growth will come from more people engaging with Rugby Union after these events. The important thing is...
  14. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Well looking at QLD, first would be to decide how many teams 2 or 3. But also learning from other codes regards expansion. The most important thing is to have a game in Brisbane every weekend or as close to that as possible. (i could never believe the stupidity of NSW the heartland of Union...
  15. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The issue is you can't compare different markets, NZR is selling the whole All Black brand and on top of that it dominates the local domestic sporting market in NZ as well. As they have done over the last 20 years with Super rugby and the proposed TT competition is essentially just shore up...
  16. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Surely the point to take is we have to stop this bullshit talk of a TT competition, cross border competitions will never work when self interest dominates. Separate domestic competitions and then start to discuss cross over games to help with the financials.
  17. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/pick-and-drive-rugby/id1501497531 Good listen from the pick & Drive crew, check out episode 22 (royal rumble) with a sensible talk about competition makeup.
  18. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Well considering whats happened in Ausralia over the last week and the warnings now that Co-Vid is going to be part of our lives as we move forward. It would appear to be the height of stupidity to be planning a cross border competition in 2022 Rugby may very well find its financial model...
  19. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/super-rugby/super-rugby-news-wallabies-rugby-australia-moana-pasifika-fiji-drua-schedule/news-story/5b85e11ef0a910c26f2f6273a6d1d397?fbclid=IwAR00l5wvAe6vPTibMx5FTD6B_SMpEPzmigxo8M60JSxcKoGyyr991w1SIbY Lots of different inuendos, you actually start to wonder...
  20. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I think one of the biggest mistakes Rugby here made was expansion without securing its own heartland. You look at the AFL with Victoria and the NRL with NSW, even rugby in NZ was secure in its dominance at home. But rugby expanded (the old global domination theory, don't get me started on...
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