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  1. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I know what your saying, but the counter argument is are West of Camperdown interested, huge potential market as the other codes show by pumping millions into the area, but would it be best to have 2 competitive NSW teams regardless of demographics.
  2. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Could SydU attract a decent fan base, I agree they would be the best option regards competitive, but are they to0 similar to the Waratahs or does that matter.
  3. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I now what your saying. But I would argue that we need a level of separation to get our own house in order. It is this forever shackled to eachothers ankle that has the code especially in Australia just incapable of adjusting or meeting the challenges required for the game here to flourish...
  4. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Behind a pay wall, but yeah your right the headline and leading paragraph say enough. Surely it is time to put some distance in this relationship.
  5. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    https://www.rugby.com.au/news/ra-welcomes-australian-governments-funding-to-support-fiji-rugby-union-ahead-of-super-rugby-inclusion-2021626 "The package will help and support Fiji Rugby's programs to be capable of inclusion in both Super Rugby and Super W as early as next year." Now this is...
  6. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The guys a breath of fresh air on the Roar, especially considering the regular weekly commentators are very pro-active TT, and that bias comes out ever so subtlety in there articles.
  7. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    My thoughts as well. I couldn't believe that statement, and then you remember 20 years of Super rugby and the penny drops.
  8. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Zero Cool, I agree with you to a certain point, my biggest issue would be regards ownership/tribalism, people want to support a team, they want to belong and in doing so they will follow you through the good times and bad. You can still be passionate even if your team is forever struggling...
  9. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    You know what its not the worst idea in the world, but the issue i could see with Syd Uni are you really expanding on the Waratahs. What demographic are you chasing. But on the flip side why not add a QLD side and Sydney side, rename the Reds and Waratahs add in Fiji and bingo. But wait...
  10. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    So what happens if the Reds or Brumbies can't win a TT in the next 5 years, at the most in Super rugby it was 5/6 years between titles. And what happens if NZ don't agree to free player movement to protect there All Black brand. The thing is your still happy to sign up to a TT knowing the...
  11. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    But it just doesn't make sense to abandon it just because you have some doubts about the length of time that data is gathered. What assurance do you have that a TT will do any better, what data are you basing that on. Okay lets accept that the AU had a noneymoon period, But at least there...
  12. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    You can't just dismiss those ratings because it doesn't suit your argument, and even if you do then lets take the steady decline in ratings of the last ten years as an example. Okay you may not care about about this sense of nationalism your a rusted on rugby fan, your gonna watch whatever is...
  13. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    This is a good point, it doesn't have to be a sky scraper from day one, but why not a 10 year vision of where you could be. You sign upto a TT and you give all that away, you limit your ability to make any changes moving forward and we saw what happened with that approach with 20 years of...
  14. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    My kid 11 plays League, his fees are $285 per year, he gets a full training & playing kit with that, we also get raffle tickets worth $100, with the option to onsell or keep, so potentially the fees could be $185
  15. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Yes but in England and France the national team do not need to fund the level below Test rugby, they don't have to fund a bunch of Super Rugby teams. And of courses the Wallabies supply the bulk of broadcast money, however the potential is there to increase that level of funding in Australia...
  16. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    And its great to see the RA push what is clearly the only sensible option moving forward, two separate competitions of 6 teams. With further champion leagues/TT options to follow.
  17. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/super-rugby-negotiations-stall-as-australia-cools-on-trans-tasman-competition-20210622-p583bp.html Well its pretty bloody clear the RA now realize a domestic component is the only way forward.
  18. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    But that is the issue, signing upto a full TT ensures you will never have a better financial,media talent pool/footprint. Because nobody has explained how the TT will be able to raise the salary cap, attract overseas players or condense talent either, because it has struggled to do that for...
  19. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    But whos listening to the stuck record. Why hasn't Aus rugby improved over the last 20 years since we've been stuck to the hips of NZ rugby every weekend. The Australian broadcast market for rugby with a TT could soon match 2am infommercials. NZ aren't interested in Super rugby they just...
  20. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The game here needs to walk away from a full TT with NZ, we can't repeat the mistakes of Super rugby and sign upto something that simply is not designed to grow the game in Australia.
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