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Being an expat Kiwi helps, shit the missus couldn't wait to switch over to Carlton. And don't start me on streaming/pay TV issues. But look I am 1000% behind domestic first approach, but a champions league/TT style comp is also a must, I get the $ issues. In fact i'll go as far to say that...

We saw an awesome AU final, and have just watched a great TT final (there is nothing wrong with rugby). But literally the first words from Andrew Merhtens after the game was the format will change next year. FFS I just don't get it, is rugby so determined to just fuck itself in the Southern...

Yep, pity half the team are playing other codes now.

Whats more stupid is not having a 2nd team in NSW. The traditional heartland of rugby in this country can't even compete with the other codes.

So what your saying is we shouldn't have a domestic base, we sign upto a pro league with possible Japanese inclusion somehow, and with 2 pacific teams (yet 20yrs of Super rugby, not one Pacific Island team was considered sustainable) This being organised by 2 unions pretty much close to skint...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/lock-it-in-rennie-why-new-wallabies-squad-is-all-about-the-2023-world-cup-20210614-p580ug.html It looks like Super rugby version 2, lots of how/why. Has anyone talked to the Japanese, Is this the end goal. Who's funding the Island teams. Yes it should...

But isn't that what most of us are proposing, Domestic competition underpinned by a champions/challenge cup format. With only 5 teams we just don't have enough ( at a minimum you need 6, ideally 8) to run a domestic competition of any great length. There seems to be very little talk of the...

Its not bloody rocket science, you cannot address the depth issue with a declining supporter/fan and playing base, everyone talks about doing things smarter, so what the f---k have we been doing for the last 20 years, we've had access to the best provincial teams, coaches and rugby smarts...

If it was upto Geoff Parkes, Australian rugby would be a subsidiary to the NZRU.

Clearly rugby has lost a good % of market share to the other codes. But it is the reluctance to accept some of the basic facts about why we have lost that market share that is so frustrating. The one gold medal rugby gets in this country is for its ability to make excuses for why it cannot do...

I agree with your assessment, but does it not just highlight the stupidity of aligning yourself to a set up you can never win. We want to attract more money from an ever shrinking base, whatever calculator you use it doesn't add up.

Competitions need a meaning, Broadcasters need viewers, stadiums need fans, Clubs need supporters, Games need a meaning, Fxtures need Tribalism. It is the very fact that this was not prioritized over the last 20 years that has got us to where we are, if Rugby Union does not learn that lesson...

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Thats not what I said though, totally agree with a second division to help grow the strength of the game in this country, but don't want that used as "look now we have a domestic competition". Regardless of the level below Super rugby in Australia, first and foremost Super rugby needs to be...

The issue you have is to make sure an NRC type comp is not used as some sort of quasi domestic model all of a sudden justifying a full TT, you will not get growth in Australia promoting your second division.

I think Stan is pretty good, at least they look like they care as opposed to the last few years of Foxtel. The only issue (and pretty first worldish) is not being able to channel surf. Yesterday the missus watched footy on TV, i just chucked the rugby on my phone. But streaming is definately the...

What is the point of locking yourselves behind closed doors if the result is a slightly better clusterfux. If the last 20 years have shown us anything, surely it is until you get the basics of any competition structure right, all you are doing is kicking or passing the clustfux around, it is...

But it also highlights the issue of how much Test rugby dominates the calendar. When you are playing up to 15/16 tests per year, you place obstacles in the calendar (like the June Test window). we've have had situations where some top players were playing more tests than domestic games. Yes...

The issue you have with a set up like that is scheduling, you are okay with the first part of the season domestic, but the second half "sponsors cup" needs to be scheduled over three countries with what one or two weeks notice, I don't think that is practical for a variety of reasons. Okay...

Super Rugby Trans-Tasman 2021 Paul Cully: Rugby Australia and New Zealand Rugby must go their own way (smh.com.au) In fact I've just read it twice great article, although slipping in the old Bay of Plenty angle was a bit out there.