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Behind Nick Stirzaker, probably would have been in the 1sts at any other school. :-)

Not so sure you are on track here - having been one of those parents it is not a pretty sight watching your sub-50kg son in the U12's (1) try to tackle a rampaging 95kg kid (who is now playing first grade - lovely kid/lovely parents) or (2) come up against a team of them who manhandle the kids -...

1. Greg Somerville 2. Hugh Pyle 3. Cooper Vuna

Well said. Separately, I would like to see the Age take Grumbles back to his roots - then some of these politicians would lose their mouthpiece.

"Waratah" Shield = NSW - maybe Eddies could get that border moved a km or 2 or open up a Queanbeyan campus?

Gilbert seemed to be very calm at 5/8th tonight - food for thought!?!

3. Luke Burgess 2. Kurtley Beale 1. Pat McCutcheon 3. Brown 2. Wykes 1. O'Connor

Good to see Kimlin having a run - seemingly the back up Brumbies have more spirit than some of the "leadership" team.

Helps me understand the 9-42 Kings Old Boys (my old team) v Hunters Hill scoreline (brings back memories of 1980). It bemuses me that Waratahs will allow a contracted player to eff about in subbies, especially when he could be doing some real good for the game at a club like Parra or Penrith.

Parent's should think about this before trying to give their sons a leg up over their year group - one school used to have a April 1 to Mar 31 policy - now you have kids stretching over three calender years. I would be interested to know why the Knox boy in question is in the year he is given...

Not to mention his speed around the paddock - almost pulled off a great cover tackle on a back (forget which one) late in the game.

Thanks BWF - very interesting (and sad) that Knox is on the slippery slope.

Force 3 Sam Wykes 2 James O'Connor 1 Cameron Shepherd Rebels 3 Hugh Pyle 2 Mark Gerrard 1 Jarrod Saffy

baldingwingforward - agree with almost all of what you say but have two observations: 1. I have played against Knox and then been close to their parent group (who would know very well if their son had been replaced by a "scholar") and I am not aware they are involved in this - many deserved Knox...

Agree big time

Thomson has raw boned strength - Chis is a big beef cake - world of difference - all top forwards have that seemingly invisible strength - shake their hands and you know straight away who is strong. Is there a difference between lean muscle (that you associate with shearers for instance) or fat...

3. Tatafu Polota-Nau 2. Sekope Kepu 1. Luke Burgess

3. Beau Robinson 2. Will Genia 1. Quade Cooper

In the Manly/New game the New half rolled the scrum feed 90 degrees back through his locks' feet - penalty. Next scrum does exactly the same thing - play on. Go figure.

3. Ben Mowen 2. Kurtley Beale 1. Luke Burgess 3. Mark Chisholm 2. Ben Alexander 1. Benn Hand