Brumbies head coach 2012

[Slim 293]

Pat Howard and Joe Roff have been included in the panel to select the new coach...

I don't suppose Howard could start making the team selections as well?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/new...oward-mackay-join-hunt-for-coach/2119794.aspx

Howard, Mackay join hunt for coach

BY JOHN-PAUL MOLONEY AND CHRIS DUTTON, RUGBY UNION
31 Mar, 2011 07:01 AM

Former Wallabies utility back Pat Howard and prominent Canberra businessman John Mackay have been appointed to a panel to choose the next ACT Brumbies coach.
Howard and Mackay will join club chief executive Andrew Fagan and Brumbies great Joe Roff on the panel which will shortlist and begin interviewing applicants within the next three weeks.

Fagan confirmed the interest of former Wallabies assistant coach Allan Gaffney in the head coach position, adding another quality name to a likely short-list that will include caretaker head coach Tony Rea and obvious favourite Jake White.

Fagan welcomed Howard's involvement in the selection process. The former Test and Brumbies back has worked in various coaching roles, including as head coach of English club Leicester and was briefly Australian Rugby Union's high performance manager.

''Pat knows the business of coaching, he's a strategic thinker and he understands our organisation, so he'll bring a lot to the panel,'' Fagan said.

One of the immediate challenges the new head coach will face is managing a squad set to be restricted by a new salary cap.

 

[disco]

Bring back Running rugby, Bring back Gaffney.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

It's a pity Pat Howard is on the selection committee. I'd love him to throw his hat in the ring for the coaching job.

 

[Aussie D]

Interesting choice of selection panel - a businessman, a sports administrator and 2 backs, one of whom has no coaching experience. All on the selection panel are Brumbies through and through. Can anyone else see a problem with this? (sorry I've been studying Corporate Governance)

Are any of the Brumby fans worried abot White's potential appointment considering his aversion to playing fetchers? Especially with the likes of Salvi, Hooper and Fainga'a in the squad. I'd be worried about a culture fit with the Australian approach to the game.

 

[Viking]

Are any of the Brumby fans worried abot White's potential appointment considering his aversion to playing fetchers? Especially with the likes of Salvi, Hooper and Fainga'a in the squad. I'd be worried about a culture fit with the Australian approach to the game.

Yes i am worried now, C. Fainga is a great growing prospect and Id hate to see his development impeded by the coaching mentality of White. The risk of entering a Foreign coach into the Australian market comes with a risk over hiring a domestic coach. I guess I'm worried about foreign coaches knowledge of Australian players, especially developing players like Fainga.

 

[Slim 293]

Are any of the Brumby fans worried abot White's potential appointment considering his aversion to playing fetchers? Especially with the likes of Salvi, Hooper and Fainga'a in the squad. I'd be worried about a culture fit with the Australian approach to the game.

This is definitely a concern.

Particularly after he recently left out Brussouw in his picks for the Springbok backrow...

 

[I like to watch]

Wasn't that more on the basis that he would pick the incumbents first up?

 

[Slim 293]

Jake White:

My first choice Bok loose trio would be Schalk Burger, Juan Smith and either Danie Rossouw or Pierre Spies at No 8.

That former trio won us the World Cup, and they can do it again.

I wouldn't want him bringing that kind of mentality to the Brumbies.

 

[nathan]

Interesting choice of selection panel - a businessman, a sports administrator and 2 backs, one of whom has no coaching experience. All on the selection panel are Brumbies through and through. Can anyone else see a problem with this? (sorry I've been studying Corporate Governance)

Are any of the Brumby fans worried abot White's potential appointment considering his aversion to playing fetchers? Especially with the likes of Salvi, Hooper and Fainga'a in the squad. I'd be worried about a culture fit with the Australian approach to the game.

I'm closely related to the businessman in question, and he's been involved heavily with sporting organisations over the years - including the Canberra Raiders and Capitals as well as successfully privatising Canberra electricity and gas before that. While I'm clearly showing a little bias, I think he's the kind of guy you'd want in helping make such a decision.

Much better than another former or current player anyway...

 

[Aussie D]

I'm closely related to the businessman in question, and he's been involved heavily with sporting organisations over the years - including the Canberra Raiders and Capitals as well as successfully privatising Canberra electricity and gas before that. While I'm clearly showing a little bias, I think he's the kind of guy you'd want in helping make such a decision.

Much better than another former or current player anyway...

I can see the sense of having a businessman on the panel as he can focus on a coaches management techniques and presentation skills which are important in this day and age. I just think (after studying Corporate Governance) that you need independent voices on a nominations committee. Fagan, Howard and Roff are the ones I would be most concerned with from a CG perspective. A panel of say John McKay, an experienced former coach - basically there to test candidate's tactical ability (such as Bob Dwyer) and a foreign ex-coach known for their technical expertise (e.g. Laurie Mains). Fagan's role in the procdess should be to talk to the potential coach's agent to find discuss contract terms.

 

[mudskipper]

The SpringBoks won a world cup, Jake White was only one of many who achieved. I'm not sold on push RWC.Jake.White being installed as the Brumbies head coach

 

[Slim 293]

So far out of the candidates...

Jake White + Alan Gaffney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen Larkham + Tony Rea

 

[lincoln]

Fagan's role in the process should be to talk to the potential coach's agent to discuss contract terms.

Agree big time

 

[Brumby Jack]

A nice piece about Jake White from South Africa Rugby blogger and ex-media manager of the Boks, Mark Keohane.

I tweeted earlier in the week that I wished him well but that as a person he remains a first class prick and a liar. Many responded and wanted to know why I would make such a remark. It is based on Jake selling out a friendship. I have no malice towards him and at one stage considered him a dear friend. We worked together and in rugby for 15 years and went through a lot as colleagues and as coach/media. I wrongly assumed that meant something.

 

[louie]

sounds like a brumbie

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

This Keo fella has a history of bullshit remarks like that doesn't he?

 

[Blue]

A nice piece about Jake White from South Africa Rugby blogger and ex-media manager of the Boks, Mark Keohane.

Would maybe have meant something....if it didnlt come from a self obsessed dickwad journalist with a bone to pick because he got fired from being Bok media liaison manager for having delusions of grandeur and making decisions without authority. When Keohan worked for SA Rugby he acted like he ran the bloody show.

Keohane is poisonus. That's they way he gets people to his blog and sells advertising. Evil little man.

 

[Blue]

This is definitely a concern.

Particularly after he recently left out Brussouw in his picks for the Springbok backrow...

Brussow wasn't even playing provincial rugby when White was coach.

People read to much into Jake's comments on not needing a fetcher. He was taking the piss. He played Burger as a fetcher ffs and in SA at the time there was nobody else.

He pulled the line that the only fetching he needed was his son to fetch hom a beer from the fridge as a finger to certain SA journalists who had been ripping him to pieces at the time for his selections. IT was mainly due to people questioning his selection of Danie Rossouw (who became integral to the Boks down the line).

Trust me, he will believed in the need for a scavenger 110% in the modern game as it is being played.

 

[Bruce Ross]

Exactly what has been achieved by the action of Andrew Fagan - and presumably his board, although he seemed to want to take all the credit for it - in removing Andy Friend in such a publicly humiliating way? Other than, of course, demonstrating that the coach wasn't the major problem or even perhaps a major problem.

If the Brumbies board had decided they needed to change coaches why was it necessary to garbage bag Friend? Why not let him see out the season and then bring in his successor. Was he such a disaster that instant removal was required? We now know the answer to that question.

There seems to be an assumption that Jake White has the authority and stature to curb the entrenched culture of player power and produce a new golden era of rugby at Acapulco-by-the-Lake. But what about the entrenched culture of Fagan power? It would take a very large mouse to bell that particular cat.