What is wrong with the Tahs
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waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
I would think it's due to them competing in a contact sport, I'm not a doctor though.
vidiot
John Solomon (38)
rugbysmartarse
Alan Cameron (40)
Having listened to the opinions of this living outside of NSW (and some within) I offer this missing link: what, precisely, do you expect the tahs fans to do? It's not like I can run for the nswru board, or try to get a coaching job there. My options are limited to either support the team, or not support the team. Everything outside these options falls to a hope that someone else will fix the issue. I applaud all those who do the former, for any team, and continue to support a team even when they are down.
The Sydney Uni thing is interesting. For the Tahs it is deemed an issue, for other sides, it isn't ( they all have a Uni contingent)
Watching the Rebels with their "Uni coach" and "Uni players" I saw width, hitting the ball at pace and defensive passion
With the Tahs, it is Style of play, lack of width, lack of speed to action, lack of urgency, lack of defensive effort, lack of effort off the ball - "Uni" nah
Watching the Rebels with their "Uni coach" and "Uni players" I saw width, hitting the ball at pace and defensive passion
With the Tahs, it is Style of play, lack of width, lack of speed to action, lack of urgency, lack of defensive effort, lack of effort off the ball - "Uni" nah
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Not to mention that Uni plays with a fair bit of passion and skill. (Not that I'm a fan -- I went to UNSW). It is an interesting question though. It seems to me that there is a stark difference between translating skills and physicality and imitating the game plan. Size and fitness simply aren't enough at the Super level. You need skill, execution and sustained performance.
I am wondering why the Tahs were so concerned about keeping the ball in the close, the widest it got on Friday was a cut out to Horne, the rest was inside ball/short balls through the 10-12 channel. Was it a concious decision to target Steyn? or a concern about the mobility of the pack to support a wider game?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
That response implicitly accepts that they suffer no more injuries than any other team in s. 15.
So that excuse is gone for the 17 years.
Next?
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Yes, it seemed an odd decision. Both Paka and Kingston have a lot of pace and looked good when they did see the ball. I think early they were targeting Morne -- one Palu run was particularly memorable -- but the game plan seemed more conservative than it needed to be. Perhaps the early success of the Horne try encouraged them to keep the ball in the middle of the field?
mjw
Larry Dwyer (12)
same as every other team so why heap shit on the Tahs for every little thing they do right or wrong
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
If taken those things almost from quotes from posts of a couple of brumbies fans. I asked or offered that people could change the wording if I misrepresented there arguments.
I would like you to do so, I would like 5-10 points on what constitutes something that a team can be judged on and what affects a team. I find it absolutely mind blowing that a team that has lost 12 out of it's 30 man squad to injury or suspension at some point is unaffected by it. I would like to know the criteria that all teams are judged on so it can be applied tp all teams. It's not a generalization, it's a very broad and open question that I would love your honest opinion on.
Bruce Ross
Ken Catchpole (46)
In talking about Sydney Uni-developed players at the Waratahs, one thing that is completely unrecognised is the diametrically opposed systems of physical training at the two locations. Uni players from Colts onward do very heavy strength training year-round, including crucially right throughout the playing season, and make extensive use of specialised apparatus. The Waratahs' S & Cs totally reject this approach. Uni teams are renowned for their dominance towards the end of matches; I can't recall the Waratahs ever being accused of this.
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Torn Hammy
Johnnie Wallace (23)
I slot players into different types.
A barger gets whacked all game every week, it's a hard to turn up every game. For periods of every game we see the Tah bargers look and play tired. Also when the opponent's bargers are as big and strong as yours then they will largely cancel each other out and then your game plan falters.
Last year's Shute Shield Grand final was battle between bargers (usyd) and finessers and line breakers (eastwood). The eastwood team was remarkable in that it had line breakers in almost every position and great finessers in White and Hola, and that is why they were able to beat a team that boasted 16 Super Rugby players.
I would like to see the Waratahs recruit a new 9, 10 combo that can finesse. White, Cooper or even Hola? We need more line breakers, though they are very rare. I honestly believe these people will get us over the line in those close games that we are continually losing.
- bargers.... Kepu, Dennis, Mumm, Horwill, Brown
- line breakers.... Palu, Ioane, Mitchell, Cooper, Higginbotham, Genia, Kahui
- finessers.... Cooper, Genia, White, Lilo, SBW, Guildford, Steyn, Lambie
- flyers... Mitchell, Davies, Beale, O'Connor, Kingston
A barger gets whacked all game every week, it's a hard to turn up every game. For periods of every game we see the Tah bargers look and play tired. Also when the opponent's bargers are as big and strong as yours then they will largely cancel each other out and then your game plan falters.
Last year's Shute Shield Grand final was battle between bargers (usyd) and finessers and line breakers (eastwood). The eastwood team was remarkable in that it had line breakers in almost every position and great finessers in White and Hola, and that is why they were able to beat a team that boasted 16 Super Rugby players.
I would like to see the Waratahs recruit a new 9, 10 combo that can finesse. White, Cooper or even Hola? We need more line breakers, though they are very rare. I honestly believe these people will get us over the line in those close games that we are continually losing.
rugbysmartarse
Alan Cameron (40)
I thought it was more to do with the passing capability of the centrre pairing. On a few occasions the option was to go to a second distributor (like hangers) running a second line and then on to a wider winger. Instead pretty much every ball went to AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) or Horne and ended there (with one notable exception)
Bullrush
Geoff Shaw (53)
I think some of tne Tah players are over-rated and so when they're playing, they're considered to be out of form when they are actually about as good as they usually are, and whe they are injured, it's deemed that an important cog in the machine is missing eg. Barnes, Lachie Tarner, Elsom, Horne.
Just a small thing....
Just a small thing....
mmm it ain't hard to catch and pass and loop
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