Waratahs 2010

[TheRiddler]

As well As Ofa, the Tahs have also signed Chris Alcock from Gordon. Not sure what sort of contract, think he was originally offered a junior contract, he turned it down and was then offered a full contract.

 

[Aussie D]

Jowitt sounds a bit light for a pro-rugby era lock - 201cm and 113kg seems like the measurements for a bean pole.

Has anyone seen him play? 60 matches in 4 seasons sounds a bit light coming from the European season.

Mumm is a much better lock than 6 so Hickey needs to keep him there.

 

[Moses]

Jowitt sounds a bit light for a pro-rugby era lock - 201cm and 113kg seems like the measurements for a bean pole.

Weight: 108 Kg. Height: 200 cm. Name: Victor Matfield.

 

[Aussie D]

I stand corrected. I hope for the 'tahs and Wallabies sakes he turns out to be near the same class as Matfield but at 26 if he was he would have shown it by now surely....

 

[Moses]

If he doesn't have the class of Matfield then perhaps the mongrel of
Weight: 116-120 Kg. Height: 201 cm. Name: Bakkies Botha

 

[James Buchanan]

In reality, Mowen is the 7, and Phil Waugh is the 6. That is essentially what ended up happening in the 2nd half of the Tahs' season. Mowen has the speed in the loose that Waugh no longer has. Waugh tends to focus on 'leadership' activities, like pointing out people that he wants other teammates to tackle. He is a great delegator and has a bright future in middle management ahead of him. Keeping him in the side means you need a 6'5" lineout option with mobility. Ben Coridas is 6'4" but will need to improve his ball winning in the air to push for Mowen's spot.

That's why I was saying he's sort of a back row 'utility'. He can play 6 perfectly well, 8 is what he grew up playing and he certainly has the nouse for it and you're right, for his size, his attack at the pill is second to none, making him a very handy 7 replacement. Having him on the bench allows the Tahs to also bench a specialist lock, which is a handy addition in and of itself.

Of course, as has been raised, his quality is above that of a bench player.

 

[fatprop]

If he doesn't have the class of Matfield then perhaps the mongrel of
Weight: 116-120 Kg. Height: 201 cm. Name: Bakkies Botha

I think Foley is a size queen, we have recruited a pretty big pack.

 

[Moses]

NSW site has an article on Waratah training starts.

They have this pic:

with the caption:

Nemani Nadolo on day one of the 2010 pre-season.

Can anyone provide any info on this lad?

That's Ratu Nasiganiyavi. Nemani is his middle name. He looks like he's been on Kurtley Beale's diet.

From his twitter account

just changed my name ( ratu nasiganiyavi) to NEMANI NADOLO as i have gone back to my mothers maden name.. long story !!!!

 

[fatprop]

Waratahs Squad for 2010

Chris Alcock Flanker Gordon
Sosene Anesi Fullback/Wing TBA
Berrick Barnes Flyhalf/Centre TBA
Alastair Baxter Prop Northern Suburbs
Kurtley Beale Flyhalf Northern Suburbs
Luke Burgess Scrumhalf Sydney University
Will Caldwell Lock Sydney University
Tom Carter Centre Sydney University
Ben Coridas Flanker Eastwood
Scott Fava Flanker Eastwood
Damien Fitzpatrick Hooker Eastwood
Adam Freier Hooker Randwick
Daniel Halangahu Flyhalf Sydney University
Josh Holmes Scrumhalf Warringah
Rob Horne Centre Southern Districts
Cam Jowitt Lock/Flanker Manly
Sekope Kepu Prop Randwick
Drew Mitchell Fullback/Wing Randwick
Ben Mowen No.8/Flanker Randwick
Dean Mumm Lock/Flanker Sydney University
Nemani Nadolo Wing Randwick
Dan Palmer Prop Southern Districts
Wycliff Palu Flanker/No.8 Manly
Tatafu Polota-Nau Hooker Parramatta
Benn Robinson Prop Eastwood
Hendrik Roodt Lock TBA
Rory Sidey Centre West Harbour
Chris Thomson Lock Warringah
Jeremy Tilse Prop Sydney University
Lachie Turner Fullback/Wing Eastwood
Phil Waugh (C) Flanker Sydney University

 

[Lindommer]

So Fava and Tilse are still on the books. Is 2010 the last year of their contracts? I hope so.

 

[Lee Grant]

WARATAHS SQUAD 2010


Player Position HeightWeight DOBAge* Last Year
Sekope Kepu Prop 1/3 188cm 125kg 5 Feb 86 23 2011
Benn Robinson LH Prop 183cm 113kg 19 Jul 84 25
Jeremy Tilse LH Prop 194cm 117kg 2 Feb 86 23
Alastair Baxter TH Prop 190cm 116kg21 Jan 77 32
Dan Palmer TH Prop 180cm 115kg 13 Sep 88 21

Tatafu Polota-Nau Hooker 181cm 113kg 26 Jul 85 24 2011
Adam Freier Hooker 175cm 98kg 20 Mar 80 29 2011
Damien Fitzpatrick Hooker 182cm 104kg 8 Jun 89 20

Will Caldwell Lock 198cm 114kg 17 Aug 82 27
Chris Thomson Lock 204cm 117kg 10 Jul 85 24
Hendrik Roodt Lock 200cm 121kg 6 Nov 87 22 2011
Dean Mumm Lock/6 196cm 109kg 5 Mar 84 25
Cam Jowitt Lock/6 201cm 112kg 5 Feb 83 26

Phil Waugh Flanker 7 175cm 100kg 22 Sep 79 30 2011
Chris Alcock Flanker 7182cm 104kg 21
Ben Coridas Flanker 6/7 194cm 105kg 17 Apr 88 21

Ben Mowen No.8/6 195cm 106kg 1 Dec 84 25
Scott Fava No. 8 189cm 106kg 19 Jan 76 33 2010
Wycliff Palu No. 8 194cm 120kg 27 Jul 82 27 2010

Luke Burgess Scrumhalf 179cm 89kg 20 Aug 83 26
Josh Holmes Scrumhalf 186cm 91kg 6 Jan 87 22 2011

Daniel Halangahu Flyhalf 178cm 90kg 6 Mar 84 25 2010
Berrick Barnes Flyhalf/12 183cm 88kg 28 Mar 86 23 2010*
Kurtley Beale Flyhalf/12/15 184cm 94kg 6 Jan 89 20

Tom Carter Centre 12 189cm 103kg 25 Feb 83 26 2010
Rory Sidey Centre 12/13 188cm 100kg 4 July 86 23 2010†
Rob Horne Centre 13 186cm 88kg 15 Aug 89 20 2011

Nemani Nadolo Wing 196cm 125kg 31 Jan 88 21 2010
Lachie Turner Wing/Fullback 189cm 88kg 11 May 87 22 2011
Sosene Anesi Wing/Fullback 187cm 95kg 3 Jun 81 28 2010
Drew Mitchell Fullback/Wing 182cm 95kg 26 Mar 84 25 2011


PROFESSIONAL ACADEMY 2010


Player Position Height Weight DOBAge* Notes
Ofa Fainga'nuku LH Prop 180cm 122kg 15 Dec 82 28
Paddy Ryan Prop 3/1 21
Kane Douglas Lock 201cm 116kg 1 Jun 89 20
Greg Peterson Lock 204cm 115kg 3 Mar 91 18 Oz Schools 2009
Pat McCutcheon Flanker 187cm 101kg 4 Jun 87 22
Lachie McCaffrey Flanker/No.8 2009 Shute Shield ROY
Brendan McKibbin Scrumhalf 175cm 85kg 9 Sep 85 244 S14caps Reds
Tim Bennetts Centre 12/13 185cm 90kg 1 Aug 90 19 2008 Oz Schools A
Ed Jenkins Wing 183cm 92kg26 Jun 86 23 Taranaki, Oz 7s
Jacob Woodhouse Fullback 184cm 91kg 28 Sep 91 18 Oz Schools 2009
Adam D'Arcy Fullback 183cm 87kg 3 Oct 85 24


Notes
Age* is at 1 Jan 2010 – If DOB is not mentioned the player was the age listed at some time during 2009.
Blank = Don't know
Rookies are assumed to be: Coridas, Alcock and Fitzpatrick
2010* = Barnes has an option to play in 2011 also
2010† = Hickey has been quoted that Sidey has signed for 2 years but official sources mention “for the 2010 season”

It was not possible to find out the “Last Year” all players will be under contract to the Tahs. Please advise if you have additional information to complete the list - but do not advise anything without providing the link from which you got your information.

Also please advise about the boo-boos you have spotted and I will change them.

 

[RugbyReg]

Rob Horne 2011 Full
Kurtley Beale 2011 Full
Dan Palmer 2011 Full
Lachlan Turner 2011 Full
Josh Holmes 2011 Full
Rory Sidey 2011 Full
Sekope Kepu 2011 Full
Tatafu Polota-Nau 2011 Full
Ben Mowen 2011 Full
Drew Mitchell 2011 Full
Dean Mumm 2011 Full
Luke Burgess 2011 Full
Will Caldwell 2011 Full
Phil Waugh 2011 Full
Al Baxter 2011 Full
Berrick Barnes 2010 Full
Chris Thompson 2010 Full
Benn Robinson 2010 Full
Daniel Halangahu 2010 Full
Tom Carter 2010 Full
Cam Jowitt 2010 Full
Wycliffe Palu 2010 Full
Adam Freier 2010 Full
Scott Fava 2010 Full
Hendrik Roodt 2011 Full (Foreign Development)
Sosene Anesi 2010 Import
Damien Fitzpatrick 2011 Rookie/Full?
Nemani Nadolo 2010 Rookie?

 

[mark_s]

Lee, you may want to check Fitpatricks DOB

 

[fatprop]

So what is the story with Chris Alcock?

 

[TheRiddler]

So what is the story with Chris Alcock?

Gordon player. Spent the past Shute Shield season playing both 2nd and 1st Grade. I believe some Gordon players think he should have been a regular 1st team starter but that existing friendships/preferences/cliques stopped that happening. Nonetheless still scooped the Gordon player of the year. Think he is a Barker boy, very athletic for a back rower, kind of player that hits a ruck first and asks questions later, but has a good, wise, rugby head on him.

I'm excited!

 

[jason]

So what is the story with Chris Alcock?

Gordon player. Spent the past Shute Shield season playing both 2nd and 1st Grade. I believe some Gordon players think he should have been a regular 1st team starter but that existing friendships/preferences/cliques stopped that happening. Nonetheless still scooped the Gordon player of the year. Think he is a Barker boy, very athletic for a back rower, kind of player that hits a ruck first and asks questions later, but has a good, wise, rugby head on him.

I'm excited!

Was a couple of years below him at Barker. Big, quick and (at least at 1st XV level) pretty aggro. Haven't seen him play since schoolboy rugby, but he was a big part of our pack that won us the CAS premiership. Wouldn't get too excited, but a good signing.

 

[Lee Grant]

Alcock had an outstanding year in Sydney club rugby and I assumed that once he got going, and then wasn't in the starting Gordon XV, he was injured.

Nevertheless he is the biggest surprise for me on the Tahs contracted players list. I heard he had a contract but assumed it was an Academy contract, not a rookie contract.

He played no. 8 for Gordon but you wouldn't play him there in the S14 or even as a 6 IMO. I would peg him as a 7 and one of the backups for Waugh - and almost certainly behind Coridas; not that he is a specialist fetcher either.

Coridas - I thought that he had accepted another professional Academy contract but that information was obviously wrong. Now we know, maybe, why Beau Robinson and Dave Dennis aren't with the Tahs. They needed rookies (a minimum of 3 have to be in every squad); so they chose Alcock and Coridas to replace them.

The other rookie is probably Kirkpatrick. Although he played in 4 games in 2009 he was on the park for only 26 minutes this year; so I'm guessing that he can be counted as a rookie for 2010.

Dennis was an injury risk but Beau couldn't have done a lot more. He covered beautifully for Waugh in 2008 when Waugh had his long injury.

As for the others who are no longer with the Tahs (and who replaces them):

4/5 Luke Doherty - Kuyden, Japan (Roodt)
3. Matt Dunning - Force (Lock/6 Jowitt)
11. Lote Tuqiri - Leceister Tigers (Anesi)
15. SNK - Cardiff Blues (Mitchell)
9. Brett Sheehan - Force (Holmes)
13. Matt Cararro - Bath (Sidey)
12/13 Timana Tahu - Eels - (10/12 Barnes)
14. Peter Playford - ? - Squad reduction
15. Batger - ? - Squad reduction

The Tahs were loathe to let Dunning go but we did have one prop too many in 2009 and Tuckie will get a great chance to prove at the Force that he should be kept in the Oz team for the next RWC.

All in all, I would say: given that the squad had to be reduced by two, the Tahs HPU has done a pretty good job on paper - though I would have given Dunning's contract to Beau.



Noddy

I goggled for a while to find the contract periods for the players. Are you sure of your "years" (which make sense). If so; can you advise if you had private info - nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more - or does my goggling need more work?

Incidentally, the Tahs lads have apparently give the nickname of "Dud" to new guy, Roodt.

 

[Pfitzy]

In the tradition of classic Aussie nicknames...

Jeez I'm looking forward to Dunning re-establishing himself as a premier loosehead over west, or filling in at THP when they need it. He deserves it for his maturity and attitude. And the fact he met me once.

 

[Lindommer]

Ben Batger's in Italy. Lee. Check my troubadors thread.

 

[Lee Grant]

I keep forgetting and yet that is what it's there for.