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Jim Lenehan (48)
It would be quite surprising if Lilo made it given he hasn't featured in what has been the highly rotated area of 10/12 and bench options.
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Benaud
Tom Lawton (22)
He might be a bit like Genia in that might work in his favour given all options tried were awful and we haven't found a satisfactory one yet.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Although Benaud, isn't Genia in the "awful" camp given what he dished out before his injury was very poor?
Benaud
Tom Lawton (22)
It looked that way at the time. But given what has been dished out since, it was relatively good.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
The difference is that Phipps and White have also put in good performances, and Genia has not............
Sadly for you, fp, there was little wrong with the props these last few tests...
Mate, me and fatcat, great pass
Just don't expect us to get to every ruck
Benaud
Tom Lawton (22)
I don't think the same can be said of Cooper and Foley. It's a case of "we had 2 options and they're not working. Do we stick by and hope for a turnaround or take another option?"
I doubt they'll pick Lilo having not played him, but I certainly would, even if it meant leaving behind Cooper.
Genia I'm a bit less convinced about - although the last 2 tests have got me very worried about the current pair ahead of him. Phipps has been decent enough for a while but put in a real shocker last start. White has been inconsistent for a while, and his excellent bench cameo followed by shocker starting raised the same concerns we had before.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
Cooper will be fine I reckon. The only concern is against the ABs where you'd be inclined to follow a similar formula to last week where To'omua comes on as an impact sub and you have the forwards muscle up.
Brendan Hume
Charlie Fox (21)
Problems with the halves are only really appearing when the ball is slow or static. White looked slow because the ball was slow. Phipps looked like he was throwing to no one because he tried to up the tempo without there being the options to allow him to do. Tough to call Genia's performance as poor considering it was the first test of the season and he only got the first half against a good Boks side - plenty of tests are tight in the first half of the game.
I still think 9. Phipps 10. Cooper and 12. To'omua are probably our best inside back options IF we have the forwards working hard to get over the gain line and have quick ball, and we have some options on the inside and outside of Cooper. We won't have any 10 playing flat if those things aren't in place.
Should we not have a plan to go forward and provide quick phases to the blokes outside, Foley or To'omua is probably the best option - maybe To'omua for his size, directness and kicking out of hand. This Wallabies squad isn't anywhere near good enough to win a RWC playing 10 man rugby though - we'd be lucky to get out of the pool.
I still think 9. Phipps 10. Cooper and 12. To'omua are probably our best inside back options IF we have the forwards working hard to get over the gain line and have quick ball, and we have some options on the inside and outside of Cooper. We won't have any 10 playing flat if those things aren't in place.
Should we not have a plan to go forward and provide quick phases to the blokes outside, Foley or To'omua is probably the best option - maybe To'omua for his size, directness and kicking out of hand. This Wallabies squad isn't anywhere near good enough to win a RWC playing 10 man rugby though - we'd be lucky to get out of the pool.
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Train Without a Station
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But again Brendan, in that situation To'omua's directness, like that of all mere mortals, diminishes. And his kicking can give us problematic results at times.
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John Eales (66)
His kicking wasn't great on the weekend and directly led to two tries. We can't keep giving the pill to our opposition and back our defence to shut it down for 80 minutes. Eventually a good side will punish you for that. MT either needs to kick more effectively or leave it to someone else.
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Train Without a Station
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What I don't think helped is being lumped with the majority of the kicking. QC (Quade Cooper) should have been tasked with taking more too.
Brendan Hume
Charlie Fox (21)
Yeah agree, but if the game plan isn't providing those opportunities we're toast anyway so it's all probably academic. I can't see this Wallabies forward pack winning in a game of 10 man footy - they just don't have the skill level with the ball in hand.
Surely our biggest hindrance to 10 man rugby currently is our general field kicking and our lineout.
Our forwards have generally been decent. On the EOYT they were fine in general play but just sucked at scrumtime.
Our forwards have generally been decent. On the EOYT they were fine in general play but just sucked at scrumtime.
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Phil Kearns (64)
Brendan Hume
Charlie Fox (21)
Agree with the kicking, but I don't think we have a pack that can win a war of attrition.
I think the line out will be okay with the right people selected. Of the three lost in Sydney only one was an overthrow - the other two just didn't have enough movement to fool the AB's. Auckland was more personnel related - two good options aren't good enough against the AB's quality.
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