Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
The best at hilariously under-performing no matter how stacked the squad?you just culled them
Wallabies 2025
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It doesn't really matter who the best Australian side is because it's not an Australian comp. If your coach can't take you to the next level then why is he good enough to coach the national side? A job that is several steps harder.
Yes, they are consistently slightly above average.
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
nice fishing mate, Red's should smoke the comp this year with all there pickup's. consistently disappointing.
This isn't about team's we support, it's about finding the best Wallabies coach. None of the Super Rugby coaches have been good enough to win a Super Rugby Final, Schmidt and his team have shown that our players are good enough with the right coaches. McKellar and Latham have been around the traps for a while and have been good without being great, and Kiss seems good, but we just don't know yet.
I'm not trying to bait Brumbies supporters. I'm speaking truth. We need better coaching that what we have, or we need a way to make our coaches better.
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
agree with this
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Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Sully, "Kiss seems good" is nothing more than a Reds fan's beat up at the moment. He certainly hasn't done anything at Super level yet to promote him as the best local candidate for the Wallabies. He just might do it this year with the help of a couple of redundant Rebels coming on board, buit I would expect any improvement to be more noticeable in the forwards than in the backs. But the forwards are not the Reds' issue - they were strong there in 2024. The backs have a lot more questions to answer in my book.
A No 9 verging on brilliant in one aspect of halfback play but seripusly underperforming in his passing game. An unproven No 10 with little experience at Super level who by his own admission needs to improve his core kicking skills even though most Reds fans think that's where he excels. A No 12 who has question marks about his defencie skills and who tends to starve his outside backs of attacking ball. A promising No 13 who really has yet to prove himself at Super level. A tyro winger who could just be anything and I expect him to be a Wallaby this year. A discard (?) from the Rebels on the other wing. And a No 15 who is probably on the downhill slope. All in all, probably not one starter who is considered a lock-in for the Wallabies. If Kiss can meet the high expectations being thrown around by some on this site (and elsewhere) by making it through to the Super Rugby final (note, that making the semi-finals in three successive years is not regarded by some as being successful) then he will be in the mix for the next Wallaby coach appointment, but he has a mountain in front of him imo.
A No 9 verging on brilliant in one aspect of halfback play but seripusly underperforming in his passing game. An unproven No 10 with little experience at Super level who by his own admission needs to improve his core kicking skills even though most Reds fans think that's where he excels. A No 12 who has question marks about his defencie skills and who tends to starve his outside backs of attacking ball. A promising No 13 who really has yet to prove himself at Super level. A tyro winger who could just be anything and I expect him to be a Wallaby this year. A discard (?) from the Rebels on the other wing. And a No 15 who is probably on the downhill slope. All in all, probably not one starter who is considered a lock-in for the Wallabies. If Kiss can meet the high expectations being thrown around by some on this site (and elsewhere) by making it through to the Super Rugby final (note, that making the semi-finals in three successive years is not regarded by some as being successful) then he will be in the mix for the next Wallaby coach appointment, but he has a mountain in front of him imo.
This is nothing more than a long winded "but what about" argument. I never promoted any Super Rugby coach for the Wallabies job, in fact I argued against it. We need someone with a better track record.
I hope he stays. Second best option is he takes a DoR position. I guess third best could be stern Vern?
dru
David Wilson (68)
You seem to be complaining about fans putting Kiss at the head of the list for the Wallaby HC. As far as I can see, I am far from solo as a Reds fan, thinking that I want Kiss nowhere near the Wallabies. He needs to lock in his ability at the Reds, and we are a long way off Kiss placing himself justifiably in a short list for Wallabies, imo.
OTOH, fuck off RA, Kiss is locked in at Qld and is not available. That jerk Larkham can have that thing you are looking for. Come back in 5 years.
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
12 months ago people thought Coleman was shaping nicely for a promotion based on the 2023 Tahs performance.
The coaching set ups at Super level look the strongest they have for some time but I agree with Sully’s point that none of them have results at Super Rigby level which screams they are definitely ready for Test level coaching.
Personally I’d love there to be some stability/consistency at super level for at least another 2 years.
The coaching set ups at Super level look the strongest they have for some time but I agree with Sully’s point that none of them have results at Super Rigby level which screams they are definitely ready for Test level coaching.
Personally I’d love there to be some stability/consistency at super level for at least another 2 years.
dru
David Wilson (68)
It's a "problem" like 12 years in the making. We should really leave this guy in respect. And let everything else be noise.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Kind of? We did OK and probably better than expected. Still lost to all of the better teams we played, though.
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
Unrelated random question - is ‘Said Hanrahan’ your favourite poem?
The Ghost of Raelene
David Codey (61)
I only posted the original comparison because we seem to be leaning the chat to candidates within Aus. Is there a legitimate desirable Test standard coach amongst the Aus sides? I think the answer is no, and we are picking from what's available over what can we go and get.
We have a rightly skewed to the negative opinion of the job.
I would rather pick a good candidate from the club world than a coach with international experience but it's been an average performance. Some of these guys get international experience but in reality aren't very good but now carry the weight of that on their resume.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Ignoring the shot at Larkham, Dru, otherwise I am saying exactly the same thing about Kiss. He needs to achieve more at Super Rugby level before he is at the head of the list of coaches in this country. There are in fact quite a few posters here and on the Roar site who are very vocal about Les being the annointed one just because he has worked with Joe previously.