Mick The Munch
Bill McLean (32)
He he - nothing says proper and thorough process like a Latte at Bondi
Wallabies 2025
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LeCheese
Peter Sullivan (51)
JRugby2
Dave Cowper (27)
Crisis adverted - we didn't get him any Portuguese Chicken so he's not signing anywayCome on mate, get it right
The Roar can exclusively reveal Cheika met Waugh on Tuesday morning on Sydney’s lower North Shore at Piato Restaurant.
protein king
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I really just cant see how this relates to this forum?I enjoy soccer personally more than rugby Come on mate, get it right(don't mind the bloke on bloke action of footy tho)
KlNG
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Thats very true.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Farken AI is gunna ruin everything.
LeCheese
Peter Sullivan (51)
Associating any form of intelligence with them is probably a bridge too far
Mick The Munch
Bill McLean (32)
They do have Chicken,Avocado,Tomato, Rocket Sandwich on the menu....so you never know
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
I was at a rugby forum on the weekend and one of the speakers was a former international referee.
He did a very good presentation around refereeing. One thing in particular he tackled was player/coach behaviour in terms of influencing referees.
Cheika was his ‘bad’ example and he ackonwledged him as a very good coach with a very good rugby brain but someone who went out of his way to cultivate and maintain a very hostile relationship with referees. The presenter’s conclusion was he thought Cheika used it to try to create a siege mentality.
His view was pretty blunt. His advice was that the referees job is to be impartial but when someone goes out of his way to be an arsehole to you and encourages his whole team to have a negative relationship with refs it doesn’t do you any favours.
That’s all from the horses mouth. My impression on top of that was Cheika managed other key relationships in the RA heirachy that way too.
He obviously has skill as a coach but I don’t see any way in which that is a positive for the sport.
He did a very good presentation around refereeing. One thing in particular he tackled was player/coach behaviour in terms of influencing referees.
Cheika was his ‘bad’ example and he ackonwledged him as a very good coach with a very good rugby brain but someone who went out of his way to cultivate and maintain a very hostile relationship with referees. The presenter’s conclusion was he thought Cheika used it to try to create a siege mentality.
His view was pretty blunt. His advice was that the referees job is to be impartial but when someone goes out of his way to be an arsehole to you and encourages his whole team to have a negative relationship with refs it doesn’t do you any favours.
That’s all from the horses mouth. My impression on top of that was Cheika managed other key relationships in the RA heirachy that way too.
He obviously has skill as a coach but I don’t see any way in which that is a positive for the sport.
Strewthcobber
David Codey (61)
I reckon there's just one selection criteria, who is most likely to coach a team to victory on 31 October 2027 in the QF, probably against SA, NZ, France or Ireland.
One of the most important games of rugby ever played in this country.
We can be short term about this, in fact we probably have to be. The new coach will have 10ish tests to be ready for the tournament
One of the most important games of rugby ever played in this country.
We can be short term about this, in fact we probably have to be. The new coach will have 10ish tests to be ready for the tournament
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Yoda
Bill McLean (32)
I think if we are fair, as a spectator, and your team is on the end of pedantic or unjust penalties, we blow up at the tv or yell out at the ground just like any coach would. Cheika is passionate about winning but I take your point. The problem with rugby is the amount of laws and interpretations a referee can have in a game and there often is no consistency. I must say this year so far they seem to be pretty good in keeping the game going and limiting the time wasting. I would love to see time off when there is a knock on and time starts when half feeds the ball. That, and if a front rower goes down injured to time waste, they don’t pack a scrum but just hand the ball to the team that would get a scrum feed and have a tap and go. Either that or replace the injured player. That would stop any time wasting. Especially in the last minutes of play when a game is in the balance.
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
See I don’t think we can be short term about this at all.
For decades we’ve struggled due to poor structure and integration of our pathways and systems. In the last 2 yrs there seems to have been traction made in aligning sone of this and setting up a much better platform to be successful.
I completely understand the importance of the home World Cup but to think we can bring in a coach who doesn’t consider the bigger picture is the sort of approach that has got us where we are. Attempting a sugar hit was exactly what we did when we turfed Rennie for Jones and that was disastrous.
Also, the point that the ref was making about Cheika was that he made his job of being successful infinitely harder because his team lacked discipline and his relationship with the refs meant they got no favours.
For decades we’ve struggled due to poor structure and integration of our pathways and systems. In the last 2 yrs there seems to have been traction made in aligning sone of this and setting up a much better platform to be successful.
I completely understand the importance of the home World Cup but to think we can bring in a coach who doesn’t consider the bigger picture is the sort of approach that has got us where we are. Attempting a sugar hit was exactly what we did when we turfed Rennie for Jones and that was disastrous.
Also, the point that the ref was making about Cheika was that he made his job of being successful infinitely harder because his team lacked discipline and his relationship with the refs meant they got no favours.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Every international coach is passionate. Cheika’s behaviour was horrid - and not just on the field but also at Corporate functions in front of sponsors. And if we want a successful Wallabies then hamstringing ourselves with the refs isn’t a great start.
Yoda
Bill McLean (32)
The World Cup is at home and will be huge. We need to do well. I’m not sure any Super Rugby coach is up for that. Talk of Kiss having worked with Joe in the past is all great but if Joe stays involved to help him,if say he got the job, well, quite frankly, he’s not a great head coach or not ready yet at International level. Cheika may arouse anger in many quarters as another Eddie and Randwick disaster, which I can understand. Yet, it seems Cheika is a far better coach than he was and he is a winner. Whoever is appointed though, one thing is clear, they need to be fully in touch with the other Super Rugby coaches and have a great support staff which is what Eddie didn’t have, as mad as he was. Hopefully also RA make this decision swiftly and don’t have it drag out.
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
Is there anything he’s done which suggests he’s changed? Matt To'omua did think it was a good idea and he seems a pretty level headed, thoughtful guy. But otherwise a lot of the commentary I’ve heard suggests he’d come with a lot of baggage.
He has definitely had success in the past, but was pretty dreadful after 2015 with the Wallabies. If they decide to give him a second chance then I’ll get behind it, but I think there are other options like Cotter & ROG that I would prefer.
Tomthumb
Peter Fenwicke (45)
From who? There has been nothing but positive talk from both Argentina and Leicester. Ben Youngs said Cheika is one of the best coaches he's ever had. He really hasn't put a foot wrong since he last coached the Wallabies so it seems people just have their view on Cheika and will refuse to ever change it
And it's pretty ironic that you consider ROG a contender considering his poor relationship with refs has cost him 20 weeks of suspensions so far in his young coaching career.