Wallabies 2024
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You implied that he was with your post.
Anyway, it seems like the chat is that the Skelton ship has sailed. Although it sounds like a fair bit of conjecture on Doran's part.
Shame, if so, as I think he could significantly improve our maul and maul defence, not to mention scrum.
Every team better than us will go to town on us in the maul. We currently are a solid bet to concede at least 2-3 tries and 1-2 cards / game in that facet alone.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
I am jealous of this, there certainly appears to be a massive amount of pride in wearing the national jersey.
I wonder if this pride with representing your country is due to SA's sporting history?
I would imagine not being permitted to play for your country probably instils pride in now being able to.
Does South African have any rugby pride days where other cultures are celebrated or is it purely about celebrating South Africa?
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Simon Poidevin (60)
I was at the Georgian test and sat near a group of 20 something's who were on the beers and they spent the entire match yelling out to Nic White, telling him how shit he was, and how he should get off the field.
Could you imagine South African supporters doing that? (Maybe they did pre-rassie?)
Could you imagine South African supporters doing that? (Maybe they did pre-rassie?)
I could imagine SA supporters giving White stick!
But no, I cannot imagine them bagging their own players in a home Test.
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Simon Poidevin (60)
This is kind of what I was saying about Australian rugby - maybe Australian sport, the Marsh brothers experienced the same thing, and Raygun nowI could imagine SA supporters giving White stick!
But no, I cannot imagine them bagging their own players in a home Test.
We love a pile on. Lolesio probably isn't having a great time of it right now, and Skelton probably didn't love his last few years here either.
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John Hipwell (52)
Skelton has been the reluctant Wallaby. Several coaches tried to get him involved and he was not interested. Jones making him captain was a joke. Maybe that was the only way he could get him to commit? He is doing well in Europe but there are big holes in his game and he has not been able to transfer that form to test footy. Time to move on.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
What in the world are you trying to say with this post?
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Show me a country that doesn’t love a pile on?
Our players don’t seem to have anywhere near the sense of national pride that other nations do. You can try and give them excuses for it, but it’s the elephant in the room as far as I’m concerned
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
And how many of these overseas players that are lauded on here have the same feelings of apathy towards their county?
Jones picking a fellow flake in Skelton as captain makes sense now. Neither of them wanted to be there
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
They're able to earn squillions and still play for their country. And command the right contact conditions to do so.
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John Hipwell (52)
I am sure all those SA and Argentinian players make it clear to their OS clubs that they will represent their countries if chosen. If we expand or bin the Giteau law then it should be the same for Australians playing OS. If a player is not so keen on playing for his country then what can you do? Maybe we should be targeting younger players like Amotesero as opposed to those just past their prime?
The French clubs seem to be very possessive of their foreign players but happy for their French contingent to suit up for Les Bleus. Its up to the player to make their position clear.
The French clubs seem to be very possessive of their foreign players but happy for their French contingent to suit up for Les Bleus. Its up to the player to make their position clear.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Yeah we just need to figure out how to facilitate this. Leverage Japan and its closer proximity somehow.
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John Hipwell (52)
There are only two Boks playing in France, a few in the UK and the rest of OS players in Japan. When SA ditched the 30 cap requirement they made it clear to all OS unions that their players priority was playing for the Boks if selected and that their playing schedules with their OS clubs may be severely reduced if required by Bok management.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
That’s exactly what Will Skelton could do, that’s my point.
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Arch Winning (36)
Slipper played 8 mins and then got concussed. I would hate for you to be my boss.
He is also signed until the Lions tour and his scrum and line out work is as solid as ever. He’s not forcing penalties but he’s enabling a platform to play from.
I really like Kailea but if you think Slipper isn’t in the best 3 LHPs then I don’t know what to tell you.
We will really benefit from Tupou coming back. Hopefully BPA helps us as well.
Unfortunately I agree on White, he was flailing and I’d have Lonergan come in.
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Dave Cowper (27)
Isnt it just a symptom of societal culture in general, its not cool to be a proud Aussie. You meet a saffa, even with all the rubbish that goes on in their country they are proud to be south african and bring their culture with them, loud and proud, regardless of rugby.
Then when it comes to rugby, Aussie supporters are some of the least passionate, we sit there and clap polietly. Wouldnt be suprised if it rubs off on the players.
Then when it comes to rugby, Aussie supporters are some of the least passionate, we sit there and clap polietly. Wouldnt be suprised if it rubs off on the players.
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John Eales (66)
Our problem stems from the historical governance whereby unless you are playing for a Super franchise you can’t play for the Wallabies, which means that every Aussie player who has moved overseas has already weighed up their priorities. It’s a rule we had to have because without it we risk our domestic professional presence. But it’s past it’s use by date, the priority now has to be get the Wallabies back up the pecking order. The only thing that can save the professional game domestically is money.