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Wallabies 2024

Dismal Pillock

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
Marce said:
I don't see the Dismall Pillock team.
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Here ya go:

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LevitatingSocks

LevitatingSocks

Watty Friend (18)
stillmissit said:
Disagree with this bit, if we don't turn up to compete in all areas of forward play then expect a 20-30 point margin against us. As a rule you should always attack your oppositions strengths and take advantage of their weaknesses.
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I reckon you can turn up to compete without playing to the opponent's strengths instead of our own.

Calling for a scrum on every penalty would suit the Boks, whereas taking a quick tap and running the ball with off-loads benefits our more mobile pack. If we do scrum, mimic Fiji and use it as a restart to create space and strike plays instead of a protracted penalty generator.

Positive mindset of "our forwards are good in the loose, let's make the Springboks uncomfortable by running with the ball" vs. a negative mindset of "our set piece can't compete, there's nothing good to be done there".
 
Joe Blow

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
stillmissit said:
Fully agree re the kicking competition. We are not great at it. We must compete in the forwards, particularly at the breakdown or else the kicking will be academic.
What do you reckon the score will be or do you wait until the team announcement?

I think 15-30 to them.
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Unfortunately our two best breakdown technicians are not available for this test. It will be interesting to see the makeup of the backrow. Of course putting pressure on the breakdown is the responsibility of the whole team but it helps when you have a specialist or two.
 
C

capalaba

Jimmy Flynn (14)
Joe Blow said:
Unfortunately our two best breakdown technicians are not available for this test. It will be interesting to see the makeup of the backrow. Of course putting pressure on the breakdown is the responsibility of the whole team but it helps when you have a specialist or two.
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And this is my biggest concern as well we need to be able compete at the breakdown or get destroyed like the Reds did in the semifinal against Chiefs.
We might not win the breakdown contest, if we can at the lest slow them down then this is a step in the right direction.
I agree the loosies are going to be the key selections for this test match.
 
stillmissit

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
capalaba said:
And this is my biggest concern as well we need to be able compete at the breakdown or get destroyed like the Reds did in the semifinal against Chiefs.
We might not win the breakdown contest, if we can at the lest slow them down then this is a step in the right direction.
I agree the loosies are going to be the key selections for this test match.
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The breakdown is always the key part of the game. If we don't attack their BD then you give them control of the ball for large parts of the game, usually, you lose the game. I believe in competing in all aspects of the game and trying to hide players from the D or putting in stupid rules like only 2 compete on their breakdown are recipes for failure. The number of areas for competition and the skills and bravery needed are what make it a great game to play and most times watch.
 
Strewthcobber

Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
There's a balance here though, because get the breakdown wrong, and you end up with penalties, kicks to the corner, and mauls driving towards the line.

And we really don't want to have mauls near our line at the moment
 
Derpus

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
stillmissit said:
The breakdown is always the key part of the game. If we don't attack their BD then you give them control of the ball for large parts of the game, usually, you lose the game. I believe in competing in all aspects of the game and trying to hide players from the D or putting in stupid rules like only 2 compete on their breakdown are recipes for failure. The number of areas for competition and the skills and bravery needed are what make it a great game to play and most times watch.
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This is just one tactic available. The rush defence is basically the opposite of this and has been hugely successful - though is admittedly waining a little. This involves kicking for field position and fanning out rather than committing numbers to the breakdown to ensure linespeed on defence and a load of stifling pressure on the team in possession in their own half.

Its not quite as bad as it was at peak EJ (Eddie Jones) England with some of the rule tweaks (like 50-22s) etc that take numbers out of the defensive line and provide another avenue for pressure release - but its still pretty successful.

Bombing the breakdown can still work as well - South Africa absolutely murdered our breakdown in Sydney a few years ago. But its rarely as simple as 'win the breakdown'. If it was it would be a pretty boring game.
 
stillmissit

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
Derpus said:
This is just one tactic available. The rush defence is basically the opposite of this and has been hugely successful - though is admittedly waining a little. This involves kicking for field position and fanning out rather than committing numbers to the breakdown to ensure linespeed on defence and a load of stifling pressure on the team in possession in their own half.

Its not quite as bad as it was at peak EJ (Eddie Jones) (Eddie Jones) England with some of the rule tweaks (like 50-22s) etc that take numbers out of the defensive line and provide another avenue for pressure release - but its still pretty successful.

Bombing the breakdown can still work as well - South Africa absolutely murdered our breakdown in Sydney a few years ago. But its rarely as simple as 'win the breakdown'. If it was it would be a pretty boring game.
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Surprisingly, I agree with most of this. The rush D and the work at the breakdown can be complementary as we have seen several times in the last RWC. Our problem is that we don't know which breakdowns to attack, which can be countered and which to stay out of. We also have guys wasting energy pulling at guys after the ruck is over.
 
rugbyAU

rugbyAU

Bob Davidson (42)
According to Doran on the ESPN Scrum reset podcast, the Japan game likely won't happen this year but probably in 2025
 
Reds Rick

Reds Rick

Herbert Moran (7)
This is all great Aratin but let’s try to stay on topic. Who does Supreme Lord Krishna think our best open side is with McReight injured?
 
TSR

TSR

Andrew Slack (58)
Observation influenced, in part, by 2024 Wallaby selection relating to the development of depth in the hooker position - a position we’ve really struggled on over the last few years. Hookers playing Super Rugby next year with test experience -
Tahs - Porecki (assuming he returns to fitness)
Brumbies - Pollard & Lonergan
Reds - Faessler & Nasser
Force - Paenga-Amosa & Dolly

Of course none of them are World XV level and maybe it says a bit about the inability of players to lock down the jumper. But when squad depth has been a big issue for the local super sides I feel having test experience on the bench of 3 of the 4 super sides has to be a big plus.

(By comparison I think there are only 3 9s and 4 10s (including O’Connor) with test experience and one of them - Lynagh - has only had bit minutes).
 
stillmissit

stillmissit

Peter Johnson (47)
Just watch Schmidt regarding selections and his reasons for 2 pilferers. His take is that give SA a turnover and they will make you pay. So he takes the breakdown seriously as does SA. He also stated that you must compete in the forwards in all areas.
 
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