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David Codey (61)
That Barbarians game was the one that Taps carved them up. Made the other contenders look pretty average.
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That Barbarians game was the one that Taps carved them up. Made the other contenders look pretty average.
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Mark Ella (57)
I would suggest another viewing of Austo's blog piece. The startling change in Wallaby tactics from everything up to that point may have had a big big part to play in the form and error rate of both players and a couple of others as well.
The facts outlined in the excellent blog piece mentioned should viewed along with the comments of Cooper from last year regarding the game plan or lack there of.
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Paul McLean (56)
110% agree - it was a horror to watch. Cooper has a rugby brain that has the uncanny ability to read the play 4 phases ahead, how, I have no idea. Watch him change sides, direct players around him, and orchestrate play. It is a skill that is that cant be coached, coach around him, understand what makes him tick.
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We are Red..?
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
Sorry, playing 4 phases ahead is a coached skill, the "playing what's in front of you" is the thing that cooper possesses that is individual talent.In the world cup he was asked to play within himself. The fact he was unable to not push passes or go for stupid low percentage plays were what resulted in his errors.
He is a fantastic player ad I agree if you are going to play him you need to select the team around him. However I don't believe this image people seem to have that somehow the entire Qld structure can be transplanted from last years superugby to the international scene with the same level of success. The increase in pressure from defense ad our inability to dominate in the forwards result in far less the for the coopers of this world and as a result we need to protect him.
Perhaps cooper needs to develop an international game to compliment the team units current structure.
Richo
John Thornett (49)
Do you mean transplant the QLD structure?
No4918
John Hipwell (52)
Could it really be that difficult? Not that I think they should or would copy the gameplan but its obvious to see the benefit. If it couldn't be transferred to the test team we have serious player problems.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
The reds gameplay worked on forward parity, we rarely have forward parity. Coopers problem is playing his natural game under reduced space, result = disaster.
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Implementing the Reds game-plan at the Wallabies would mean a number of forwards from outside Queensland need to work on their fitness big time, and they have clearly put their foot down with regards to that! Additionally it would be an admission by Deans that his methods of the last 5 years have been wrong, and I think we may see pigs fly before that happens.
Ruggo
Mark Ella (57)
Not exactly but the Reds ability to play to its strengths and adapt would not go astray.
Not always but what the Reds know how to do is breakdown an opposition and create its opportunities. I would love for the Wallabies to be doing that. They have the instinct and flair to take advantage of a situation when one comes along "play what's in front of you" but they more often create those opportunities than not.
Combine this with the strength of the Tahs set piece and the skill of the Brumbies pack and it all will bode well for the future in my view.
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
WJ - slowly getting there reading 4 phases ahead with vision is different to constructing 4 phases ahead - constructing 4 phases ahead is what the Tah's have been doing - it is boring and repetitive even, the oposition is knowing our phases ahead of what we (the Tah's) play. Reading the play is intuition you are ahead of the game and the oposition.
You are an avid loyal Tah's supporter, so am I - fingers crossed B Melrose gets the job - wrong thread.
With regards to Deans and Cooper, and game plan - i think be understanding him a great team will evolve - ability to play to its strengths and adapt would not go astray
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Unfortunately some of those forwards you speak of were overlooked......,
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David Codey (61)
Hang on. I thought that most rate the Reds pack as one of the weakest of the comp?
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Reds scrum was average, but around the ground they were quite good
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David Codey (61)
The Reds look good when:
In attack they have multiple forward runners and Genia picks off the one in more space (high speed of play)
In defense they are knocking the opposition over at the knees and coming over the top to attack or slow the ball.
They look bad at scrum time, and sometimes at the breakdown in getting out muscled.
Who, from outside the Reds, can compliment this style of game, while improving the set piece and muscle?
- Dennis, Douglas, Moore, Pocock, Hooper, Sharpe.
Who could if they improved their fitness?
- TPN, Robinson
Who doesn't really compliment this style?
- Palu, Timani
In attack they have multiple forward runners and Genia picks off the one in more space (high speed of play)
In defense they are knocking the opposition over at the knees and coming over the top to attack or slow the ball.
They look bad at scrum time, and sometimes at the breakdown in getting out muscled.
Who, from outside the Reds, can compliment this style of game, while improving the set piece and muscle?
- Dennis, Douglas, Moore, Pocock, Hooper, Sharpe.
Who could if they improved their fitness?
- TPN, Robinson
Who doesn't really compliment this style?
- Palu, Timani
Bowside
Peter Johnson (47)
The reds can get forward parity because their forwards are fit, and the halves combo are able to keep the forward momentum ticking over which keeps the pack motivated.
They have a structure where the forward play complements the back play and vice versa. The wallabies can't seem to click in the same way.
They have a structure where the forward play complements the back play and vice versa. The wallabies can't seem to click in the same way.
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