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David Wilson (68)
Yes they can, I actually think the current Wallabies can beat anyone including the ABs ( though not often) if they prepared right!!
TRC 2016: Matches not involving Australia
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Yes they can, I actually think the current Wallabies can beat anyone including the ABs ( though not often) if they prepared right!!
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Argentina have overtaken Scotland & France in the rankings & would've overtaken Ireland as well had they won by 15+:
World Rugby Rankings
Previous position in brackets
1(1) New Zealand 96.30
2(2) England 89.49
3(3) South Africa 85.08
4(4) Australia 84.23
5(5) Wales 82.49
6(6) Ireland 81.67
7(9) Argentina 81.44
8(7) France 80.75
9(8) Scotland 80.44
10(10) Fiji 75.49
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/pumas-go-above-scotland-france/
World Rugby Rankings
Previous position in brackets
1(1) New Zealand 96.30
2(2) England 89.49
3(3) South Africa 85.08
4(4) Australia 84.23
5(5) Wales 82.49
6(6) Ireland 81.67
7(9) Argentina 81.44
8(7) France 80.75
9(8) Scotland 80.44
10(10) Fiji 75.49
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/pumas-go-above-scotland-france/
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Yeah, well, at least it improves Argentina's chances of getting through 80min of footy with no yellow or red cards............ I don't like seeing players get hurt but the guy's a serial grub so I have rather less sympathy for him than e.g. Matt Giteau or Ruan Combrinck.
Marcelo
Ken Catchpole (46)
Pumas' squad for the Oceania's tour:
Forwards: Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, Felipe Arregui, Agustín Creevy, Lucas Noguera Paz, Julián Montoya, Ramiro Herrera, Enrique Pieretto, Matías Alemanno, Guido Petti, Marcos Kremer, Juan Manuel Leguizamón, Pablo Matera, Javier Ortega Desio, Leonardo Senatore y Facundo Isa.
Backs: Martín Landajo, Tomás Cubelli, Felipe Ezcurra, Santiago González Iglesias, Nicolás Sánchez, Santiago Cordero, Ramiro Moyano, Jerónimo de la Fuente, Juan Martín Hernández, Matías Moroni, Matías Orlando, Lucas González Amorosino y Joaquín Tuculet.
Forwards: Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro, Felipe Arregui, Agustín Creevy, Lucas Noguera Paz, Julián Montoya, Ramiro Herrera, Enrique Pieretto, Matías Alemanno, Guido Petti, Marcos Kremer, Juan Manuel Leguizamón, Pablo Matera, Javier Ortega Desio, Leonardo Senatore y Facundo Isa.
Backs: Martín Landajo, Tomás Cubelli, Felipe Ezcurra, Santiago González Iglesias, Nicolás Sánchez, Santiago Cordero, Ramiro Moyano, Jerónimo de la Fuente, Juan Martín Hernández, Matías Moroni, Matías Orlando, Lucas González Amorosino y Joaquín Tuculet.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
All Blacks v Argentina @ FMG Stadium, Hamilton
Date Saturday 10 September 2016
Kick-Off 17:35 AEST
Referee Craig Joubert
AR1 Angus Gardner
AR2 Marius Mitrea
TMO George Ayoub
Date Saturday 10 September 2016
Kick-Off 17:35 AEST
Referee Craig Joubert
AR1 Angus Gardner
AR2 Marius Mitrea
TMO George Ayoub
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Opta Facts for NZ v Arg:
The All Blacks are unbeaten in their 22 encounters with Argentina, winning 21 and drawing just once in the second ever meeting between the sides in 1985.
o New Zealand have won all 12 home games against Argentina, scoring 77 tries in the process, an average of 6.4 per game.
o The All Blacks have won 10 of their 11 games at FMG Stadium, Waikato, winning their last five in a row at the venue.
o Argentina will be aiming to record back-to-back wins in The Rugby Championship for the first time ever after beating South Africa in their last match.
o The Pumas’ three victories in The Rugby Championship have come in their last six games in the competition, this after failing to win any of their first 17 (L16, D1).
o The All Blacks have not lost at home since September 2009 (v South Africa) winning 42 games in a row since.
o Julian Savea has scored eight tries against Argentina, his joint-most against a single opponent (level with England); should he score a hat-trick he would equal Richie McCaw and Ma’a Nonu (both 11 v Australia) for the most tries by a Tier One player against a single opponent.
o Savea has scored four hat-tricks in his Test career so far, of Tier One players only Jeff Wilson has scored more (5).
o New Zealand have conceded fewer than 10 points in each of their last three Tests, the last time they pulled off a longer such streak was in November 2008 with wins against Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and England in Europe.
o Beauden Barrett has been directly involved in more tries than any other player (4 – 1 try, 3 assists) in the competition so far and has also gained the most metres (157), beaten the most defenders (12) and made the joint-most clean breaks (5).
Heaps more stats here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/c...ZZN541JkNkcAhi41SkoEDyNan6ArSzZxO4E/file?dl=1
I found a couple of the lineout stats esp interesting:
Kieran Read (14) has won more lineout ball than any other player the RC, and more than Whitelock (6) & Retallick (4) combined.
Stephen Moore has a lineout throw success rate of 57% which is surely not good enough at this level (not saying it's all his fault but TPN's going at 83% which does suggest it's at least partly a Moore issue).
The All Blacks are unbeaten in their 22 encounters with Argentina, winning 21 and drawing just once in the second ever meeting between the sides in 1985.
o New Zealand have won all 12 home games against Argentina, scoring 77 tries in the process, an average of 6.4 per game.
o The All Blacks have won 10 of their 11 games at FMG Stadium, Waikato, winning their last five in a row at the venue.
o Argentina will be aiming to record back-to-back wins in The Rugby Championship for the first time ever after beating South Africa in their last match.
o The Pumas’ three victories in The Rugby Championship have come in their last six games in the competition, this after failing to win any of their first 17 (L16, D1).
o The All Blacks have not lost at home since September 2009 (v South Africa) winning 42 games in a row since.
o Julian Savea has scored eight tries against Argentina, his joint-most against a single opponent (level with England); should he score a hat-trick he would equal Richie McCaw and Ma’a Nonu (both 11 v Australia) for the most tries by a Tier One player against a single opponent.
o Savea has scored four hat-tricks in his Test career so far, of Tier One players only Jeff Wilson has scored more (5).
o New Zealand have conceded fewer than 10 points in each of their last three Tests, the last time they pulled off a longer such streak was in November 2008 with wins against Scotland, Ireland, Wales, and England in Europe.
o Beauden Barrett has been directly involved in more tries than any other player (4 – 1 try, 3 assists) in the competition so far and has also gained the most metres (157), beaten the most defenders (12) and made the joint-most clean breaks (5).
Heaps more stats here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/c...ZZN541JkNkcAhi41SkoEDyNan6ArSzZxO4E/file?dl=1
I found a couple of the lineout stats esp interesting:
Kieran Read (14) has won more lineout ball than any other player the RC, and more than Whitelock (6) & Retallick (4) combined.
Stephen Moore has a lineout throw success rate of 57% which is surely not good enough at this level (not saying it's all his fault but TPN's going at 83% which does suggest it's at least partly a Moore issue).
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
NZHurled are reporting Crotty is fully fit. If that's the case he'll surely start & Lienert-Brown either drop to the bench or out of the 23. I'd keep AL-B simply cos he's genuine cover for 12 & 13 whereas Tamanivalu's strictly a 13.
Brumby Jack
Steve Williams (59)
1. Joe Moody (15)
2. Dane Coles (41)
3. Owen Franks (82)
4. Brodie Retallick (52)
5. Samuel Whitelock (77)
6. Jerome Kaino (71)
7. Sam Cane (36)
8. Kieran Read - captain (89)
9. Aaron Smith (52)
10. Beauden Barrett (41)
11. Julian Savea (45)
12. Ryan Crotty (19)
13. Malakai Fekitoa (17)
14. Israel Dagg (53)
15. Ben Smith (53)
16. Codie Taylor (5)
17. Wyatt Crockett (50)
18. Charlie Faumuina (38)
19. Luke Romano (24)
20. Ardie Savea (4)
21. TJ Perenara (21)
22. Aaron Cruden (41)
23. Anton Lienert-Brown (1)
2. Dane Coles (41)
3. Owen Franks (82)
4. Brodie Retallick (52)
5. Samuel Whitelock (77)
6. Jerome Kaino (71)
7. Sam Cane (36)
8. Kieran Read - captain (89)
9. Aaron Smith (52)
10. Beauden Barrett (41)
11. Julian Savea (45)
12. Ryan Crotty (19)
13. Malakai Fekitoa (17)
14. Israel Dagg (53)
15. Ben Smith (53)
16. Codie Taylor (5)
17. Wyatt Crockett (50)
18. Charlie Faumuina (38)
19. Luke Romano (24)
20. Ardie Savea (4)
21. TJ Perenara (21)
22. Aaron Cruden (41)
23. Anton Lienert-Brown (1)
ACR
Desmond Connor (43)
Not a compliment, the Argies look just as difficult as either of the other mobs, more a necessity. They often push the AB's till the last 20min. Besides, they've had a week off.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Argentina: 15 Joaquín Tuculet, 14 Matías Moroni, 13 Matías Orlando, 12 Juan Martín Hernández, 11 Santiago Cordero, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 Martín Landajo, 8 Facundo Isa, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Matías Alemanno, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Ramiro Herrera, 2 Agustín Creevy (c), 1 Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro
Replacements: 16 Julian Montoya, 17 Lucas Noguera, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Marcos Kremer, 20 Leonardo Senatore, 21 Tomas Cubelli, 22 Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, 23 Ramiro Moyano
Three changes incl Juan Manuel Leguizamon out injured, he'll be missed.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...make-three-changes-to-side-to-play-all-blacks
Replacements: 16 Julian Montoya, 17 Lucas Noguera, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Marcos Kremer, 20 Leonardo Senatore, 21 Tomas Cubelli, 22 Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, 23 Ramiro Moyano
Three changes incl Juan Manuel Leguizamon out injured, he'll be missed.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...make-three-changes-to-side-to-play-all-blacks
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galumay
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Yes, Leguizamon is a big loss, and it already looked a mountain too high.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
A fairly nasty Southerly hit the far South on Wednesday, got to the lower North yesterday then ran out of steam around the middle of the Island. Here in Hamilton we had some wind but not much rain & it cleared overnight. The sun's now out (but it's only ~5C or ~15+ less than I'm used to) & expected to stay clear but cold all weekend.
Ground should be in good order but could be some dew around if it cools off rapidly tomorrow night as predicted. They're saying ground capacity is 25K so must be some temporary seating & it's sold out.
AB by 12-22.
Ground should be in good order but could be some dew around if it cools off rapidly tomorrow night as predicted. They're saying ground capacity is 25K so must be some temporary seating & it's sold out.
AB by 12-22.
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galumay
Guest
Great for Hamilton to get a RC game, not surprised its a sellout.
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
Got one wrong there. Great work from the ABs, but Kaino is well in from the side.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Los Pumas have shown up to play. Something Los Jaguares failed to do for their first go at Super rugby,
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