Saru & Hoskins show some real Balls and dosh Sanzar!

[daz]

You don't need Setanta to see French Top 14. Eurosport, which I think is part of the basic sports package, show half an hour of highlights and two games each week. Last year they also ran some Heineken games later in the competition too. Doesn't affect the basic thrust of the main argument but Fox, despite being a bunch of illegitimates, are showing more than just SA and NZ games here.

Yep, nice one Hawko. I'm watching the second Monday night Top14 game on eurosports as I type this. Add Sentanta to the mix and I get my fill very nicely. Having recently lived for 6 years above the equator I just cannot do without the 6N and a handfull of HEC each year. Anyone with the means to do so, who says they don't have access to NH rugby is just not trying very hard.

Crap rugby 50% of the time in the 6N, but the atmosphere and noise gets me going. Great tournament.

 

[Langthorne]

All the SANZAR members benefit from the s14/15 and Tri Nations, both financially and in terms of the playing standard. Any one member leaving would hurt all members, but would likely hurt the party leaving the most ('cutting off your nose to spite your face').

The refereeing during the Tri Nations so far has been up and down, but I don't believe SA is being unfairly targeted. I think some members of the SARU are trying to understand why the Springboks are struggling to win when they have such amazing talent to call upon (as seen in the excellent Currie Cup competition). The problem is not the S15, nor is it SANZAR or even the refs - it is the clown they appointed coach of the Springboks. PdV has not done his job well, nor has he shown dignity (or much sanity) in defeat. I think the SARU has every right to query the refereeing through the appropriate channels, but I do not believe any coach should be flying off the handle with ridiculous assertions. A coach who can't control himself is no example for a team, especially one with control and discipline issues.

Having said all that, I think SA will be a very different, and challenging proposition at home, especially with the talent they clearly have.

A 6th Super team from South Africa?! Teams 3, 4 and 5 are having enough trouble competing to introduce yet another one.

As for Japan and the pacific islands - I'd love to see them involved in the future too.

 

[Thomond78]

Hold on; so it's okay for Graham Henry to sound off, wrongly, in public about Dickinson, but it's not okay for PdV to say the ABs are getting an easier ride on terms of yellow cards than the other teams (at which stage you look at the 43:6:7 penalty/YC ratios)?

Sorry, but that's a double standard.

 

[Langthorne]

No double standards - the discussion is about SARU, Hoskins and the article posted (see title of the thread). PdV was wrong. If other coaches do it, they are wrong too.

 

[Blue]

Interesting view from you? Which S14 matches draw the biggest crowds in SA and why did the wise admins of Super Rugby decided on a three conferense home and away S15?

Currie Cup is well and alive in SA, 47,850 supporters on saturday on Newlands, Where do you get this outside SA in S14 rugby?

You obvious forgot about the U19 and U21 CC competition. That one is the breeding ground of our game, Scrapped them and we'll end up with a host of schoolboy talent going oversea for a rugby future.

I'll state it again or misinform you, cut this two leagues and our rugby is dead meat.

Paarl. Nobody has said cut the youth leagues. What are you on about? Nobody wants to kill local rugby in SA. Why can you not understand that we can have the CC running and partake in Super Rugby as well?

Read my posts properly. I said the big CC games draw the crowds. I have seen eight CC games so far this year and if there were max 10000 people its a lot.

I really don't underatand what you are arguing about. In fact, neither do you.

It's all good Paarl. Trust me. Only problem is SARU are pussies when it comes to negotiations so all they have left is acting like babies.

 

[Scotty]

So you think I cant post this on a Aussie forum? Well the mods who call the shots are welcome to tell me to fuck off. I try my best to add value here and if I dont then I'l take the red card and go.

If we all think and support the same team and have the same thoughts , life will be damn daff dull.

I didn't say you couldn't post this stuff. I'm just questioning your motives for doing so.

 

[Scotty]

Hey guys - some playing the man not the ball going on here. Paarl is allowed to express any opinion he wants about this. We're allowed to argue but none of this "trolling" stuff. And whoever said - why post this on an Aussie site - must be joking. South Africa leaving SANZAR isn't an Aussie rugby issue?

Now - back to making fun of SARU.

It was me that said it. And it appears you have completely missed my point. I have no issue with posting the article, as it does of course affect Australian rugby. What I did question was his reaction to the article: Saru & Hoskins show some real Balls and dosh Sanzar! and why he would be inclined to post that reaction here. I find it difficult to believe that no one else can see there might be an element of trolling in that!

The point is this - if PB doesn't want SA to be a part of SANZAR, then why a) post this comment on an australian rugby site and b) why frequently visit an australian rugby site? It seems he is either 'trolling' or does really believe what he is saying (as without SANZAR is unlikely he would have even been on this site in the first place).

 

[DPK]

The point is this - if PB doesn't want SA to be a part of SANZAR, then why a) post this comment on an australian rugby site and b) why frequently visit an australian rugby site? It seems he is either 'trolling' or does really believe what he is saying (as without SANZAR is unlikely he would have even been on this site in the first place).

PB has my backing. He is a solid gold hotline to the mood and developments in SA, and one of the best foreign contributers to the site. If he wants to post a South African perspective on issues on this site, by all means do so. This may be an Aussie site, but that doesn't mean we cant accept other countries views and opinions.

It's only trolling if you take the bait.

 

[Ruggo]

No we don't.

Jeez guys by now I would have though you'd realize that SARU's dummy spitting is negotiation tactics.

Pissy tactics, but what the fuck do you expect from those, urm, clowns.

NEWSFLASH - SARU threatens to join the NRL.

 

[Blue]

NEWSFLASH - SARU threatens to join the NRL.

Trust me they don't even know what league is, less so the NRL.

No league in SA. Otherwise referred to as an "ideal world".

 

[Scotty]

PB has my backing. He is a solid gold hotline to the mood and developments in SA, and one of the best foreign contributers to the site. If he wants to post a South African perspective on issues on this site, by all means do so. This may be an Aussie site, but that doesn't mean we cant accept other countries views and opinions.

It's only trolling if you take the bait.

Is that like it is only fishing if you catch a fish?

Or it is like a tree falling in the woods with no one there?

 

[Scotty]

PS If I went onto a kiwi or sa forum and stated 'Australian rugby would be better off without NZRU/SARU, so they should just grow some balls and dump them'. Do you consider people would think I am trolling?

 

[Ruggo]

With or without the participation of SARU, come 2015 the pacific will be the next fronteir for expansion of super rugby. Given that we have not played a single second under the new structure, this is all a storm in a tea cup.

 

[Blue]

With or without the participation of SARU, come 2015 the pacific will be the next fronteir for expansion of super rugby. Given that we have not played a single second under the new structure, this is all a storm in a tea cup.

I hear there are plenty cashed up broadcast networks in the Pacific ready to splurge some cash. Making up SARU's contribution will be no problem.

It's a cyclone in an espresso cup.

 

[Blue]

PS If I went onto a kiwi or sa forum and stated 'Australian rugby would be better off without NZRU/SARU, so they should just grow some balls and dump them'. Do you consider people would think I am trolling?

Not sure but they will definitely think you are a nutcase.

 

[Scotty]

Not sure but they will definitely think you are a nutcase.

I wouldn't argue with them.

 

[H...]

I don't think it will be too long before the Argies beat the Saffas in Argentina. God that's going to be sweet, from a meltdown perspective.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Ruggo, you are spot on. Let's see how the S15 pans out for a season or two before everyone gets their knickers in a twist. All this posturing by the SANZAR nations does get a little tiresome, however. I know it's fractious marriage at times, but all the parties need each other and they ought to recognise it. Together it's a great product, apart not so much.

 

[Blue]

I don't think it will be too long before the Argies beat the Saffas in Argentina. God that's going to be sweet, from a meltdown perspective.

Until such time Australia will be the only team in the 3N who got beaten in Argentina.

 

[Scotty]

When did SA last play the Pumas?