Rebels 2017

[Rebels3]

Sponsor Liaison excutive also advertised on Linkedin at the moment.

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Any link on the job description? I'd be curious to see exactly what they are asking for.

 

[KevinO]

If I was Coxy, I would use the threat of legal action to get the rules changed with regards foreign players. Would be the cheap way out for the ARU and a win win for the Rebels

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[NTT]

"Where the bodies are buried" is just the turn of phrase I used, and I common one at that. I just meant they have more of an idea of what goes on at the Force because of the ownership model.

The Rebels operate independently. Outside of what they have to disclose and what's on the annual report, the ARU wouldn't know much.8

Apart from running the club for 2 years, having supplementary funding arrangements and Rob Clarke the ex Rebels CEO now employed as Pulvers lap dog, yeah the ARU has "no idea" whats happening in Melbourne.

 

[amirite]

Apart from running the club for 2 years, having supplementary funding arrangements and Rob Clarke the ex Rebels CEO now employed as Pulvers lap dog, yeah the ARU has "no idea" whats happening in Melbourne.

Hunting me out in other threads now? Creepy.

People, including yourself, say the Western Force have really turned things around since their financial issues when the ARU took them over less than 1.5 years ago. And maybe they have. So I guess the argument is things can change a lot in 1.5 years, right?

If the ARU ran the Rebels over 2 years ago, using the logic above, why would that be relevant? Things can change a lot. Quickly.

Also, if you're going to say I said the ARU have "no idea" what's happening in Melbourne, and put "no idea" in quotation marks, you'd be hoping that's something I said. But it isn't. Interesting use of quotation marks.

Misdirection and lies. Again.

 

[Rebels3]

Back to some actual rugby chat.

What team is everyone hopeful of seeing this weekend?

I am leaning towards Smith returning from the Bench, give him a slight run around leaning towards targeting the Kings game the week after.

If not full strength as possible, no resting players. We need combinations and players, playing into some form.

 

[daz]

Hunting me out in other threads now? Creepy.

People, including yourself, say the Western Force have really turned things around since their financial issues when the ARU took them over less than 1.5 years ago. And maybe they have. So I guess the argument is things can change a lot in 1.5 years, right?

If the ARU ran the Rebels over 2 years ago, using the logic above, why would that be relevant? Things can change a lot. Quickly.

Also, if you're going to say I said the ARU have "no idea" what's happening in Melbourne, and put "no idea" in quotation marks, you'd be hoping that's something I said. But it isn't. Interesting use of quotation marks.

Misdirection and lies. Again.

amirite and NTT, your little verbal joust has been entertaining to a point, but please keep it to one thread. Also, it's starting to get a little personal now; happy for you guys to argue it out, but keep it civil please.

 

[KevinO]

Any link on the job description? I'd be curious to see exactly what they are asking for.

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/266575338/

 

[amirite]

amirite and NTT, your little verbal joust has been entertaining to a point, but please keep it to one thread. Also, it's starting to get a little personal now; happy for you guys to argue it out, but keep it civil please.

Honestly, I'm making a point to start no conversation tangents but I have a right of response.

I am leaning towards Smith returning from the Bench, give him a slight run around leaning towards targeting the Kings game the week after.

If not full strength as possible, no resting players. We need combinations and players, playing into some form.

Any minute invested in Saaga is a minute invested in the future of the club.

No need to rush Smith back, even if he is the more developed player.

 

[daz]

Honestly, I'm making a point to start no conversation tangents but I have a right of response.
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You need to read what I said. I didn't say you couldn't respond. I said keep it civil.

 

[Rebels3]

amirite and NTT, your little verbal joust has been entertaining to a point, but please keep it to one thread. Also, it's starting to get a little personal now; happy for you guys to argue it out, but keep it civil please.

Boxing gloves out. Winner gets to pick which team the ARU scraps.

 

[GoMelbRebels]

I'm not sure why this is so hard for some people to understand; Unless Coxy decides to sell his licence, e.g. is given an offer he can't refuse, the Rebels are not going anywhere.

Whatever lawyery stuff or stock option shit is going on in WA, I could care less. Good luck to them, and I'll leave them to fight their fight.

I'm just looking at what protections the Rebels have, and we have a 20 year operating licence, and a vote at the ARU table, which requires a unanimous decision to remove us.

Anything is possible I suppose, but from a legal perspective and massive cost outlay needed from the ARU to remove the Rebels, I am sure there is easier meat to be found elsewhere.

Fuck, I hope I'm right!

I understand, Daz, but until I hear the words "the Rebels are safe" I am not confident at all. The way things have been with the ARU lately, anything is possible. They are likely to scrap both the Force and the Rebels and start a South Australian team instead.

 

[amirite]

Boxing gloves out. Winner gets to pick which team the ARU scraps.

He's on.

 

[amirite]

They are likely to scrap both the Force and the Rebels and start a South Australian team instead.

Makes more sense then this Brumbies merger everyone talks about.

 

[GoMelbRebels]

If I was Coxy, I would use the threat of legal action to get the rules changed with regards foreign players. Would be the cheap way out for the ARU and a win win for the Rebels

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Coxy has stated in the past they need to change the foreign player rules, so you have a good point, Kev.

 

[RugbyReg]

I'm not sure why this is so hard for some people to understand; Unless Coxy decides to sell his licence, e.g. is given an offer he can't refuse, the Rebels are not going anywhere.

Whatever lawyery stuff or stock option shit is going on in WA, I could care less. Good luck to them, and I'll leave them to fight their fight.

I'm just looking at what protections the Rebels have, and we have a 20 year operating licence, and a vote at the ARU table, which requires a unanimous decision to remove us.

Anything is possible I suppose, but from a legal perspective and massive cost outlay needed from the ARU to remove the Rebels, I am sure there is easier meat to be found elsewhere.

Fuck, I hope I'm right!

I'm not so sure.

http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2016/0...r-members-vote-to-adopt-constitutional-change

Victoria has two votes as a member union and because they have a Super Rugby team. If they didn't have a Super Rugby team, then they would have just the one vote. If they got 50,000 participants then they'd get an extra vote.

I'm not convinced the constitution prevents them from being cut from Super Rugby as is positioned (albeit not being a constitution expert).

What it prevents the ARU from doing is just cutting Vic Rugby's vote or Tasmania etc without unanimous support. The extra a vote is a byproduct of having the team. If you don't have the team, you don't get the vote.

That's my read anyway.

 

[GoMelbRebels]

Honestly, I'm making a point to start no conversation tangents but I have a right of response.


Any minute invested in Saaga is a minute invested in the future of the club.

No need to rush Smith back, even if he is the more developed player.

I have been really impressed with Saaga (except for that yellow, which I say was accidental). Having Smith injured was a kind of blessing. Would he have been given the chance otherwise?

The back row is my main convern. Without LT, Jordy and Colby we are really lacking.

 

[USARugger]

That is very true, but if that is the case, why bother? Recruitment is a lot of time and work. I would be avoiding that even more for something like that.

Probably been in motion for a while. Stopping or delaying operations in an organization the size of the Rebels would really be a bit of a logistical nightmare and as a proj. manager the thought of it makes my skin crawl a bit.

Makes the most sense for them to just stay the course with anything that was already set to happen, and likely until they have a concrete answer from the ARU regarding their future. It's not like the team is going to get booted out of the competition midway through the season anyway.

 

[Rebels3]

He's on.

Just hope he's not Danny Green.

 

[daz]

What it prevents the ARU from doing is just cutting Vic Rugby's vote or Tasmania etc without unanimous support. The extra a vote is a byproduct of having the team. If you don't have the team, you don't get the vote.

That's my read anyway.

I think you might be right. I guess my point is that right now, we do have the team, so we do have the vote. VicRugby will not vote against the Rebels, so that is the unanimous vote requirements right out the window.

The Force, sadly, do not have the same protection from RugbyWA, given the Force licence is held by the ARU.

I am also pretty sure that if the ARU just cancel the Rebels licence, unless they want to spend the next 5 years in a legal shit-fight costing millions in fee's and compensation, they will simply need to buy the Rebels licence, which unless I am much mistaken, actually needs to be for sale and affordable.

 

[elementfreak]

I have been really impressed with Saaga (except for that yellow, which I say was accidental). Having Smith injured was a kind of blessing. Would he have been given the chance otherwise?

The back row is my main convern. Without LT, Jordy and Colby we are really lacking.

Might have been "accidental" but the Brumbies were always going blind and he made the choice to run back onside through the passing channel. Was always going to be a YC unfortunately.