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Rebels 2017

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amirite

Chilla Wilson (44)
Every one of those 4 players can and have been used as jumpers in the lineout

Correct, Lopeti, Sean, and Colby are all okay 4th option jumpers, Sean might even be an okay 3rd option jumper.

They're not 2nd option jumpers. It would be a tough game.
 

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
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Correct, Lopeti, Sean, and Colby are all okay 4th option jumpers, Sean might even be an okay 3rd option jumper.

They're not 2nd option jumpers. It would be a tough game.


You would assume that your Locks are your 1st and 2nd choice jumpers?
 

Mr Wobbly

Alan Cameron (40)
In the last few seasons we've had Higgers then Thomson as second jumper, mostly with Jones and LT as locks.

Result - worst lineout in the competition.
 

amirite

Chilla Wilson (44)
You would assume that your Locks are your 1st and 2nd choice jumpers?

He's pitching LT as a lock, so yes. LT has turned himself into a solid 3rd option as test level (with Mumm or Fardy at 6 stepping up their lineout role). With the back row being pitched, there's a balance issue.
In the last few seasons we've had Higgers then Thomson as second jumper, mostly with Jones and LT as locks.

Result - worst lineout in the competition.

Was it really? Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like to see the stats.

Long story short, I think we'd probably get by with the back/second row mentioned if we ran a lot of 4-man lineouts, but the crowding in the mid field certainly takes away attacking options from lineouts.

Line outs are dynamite attacking ball, a lot of first phase tries are scored there.
 

swingpass

Peter Sullivan (51)
At this rate, Maki will be completely buggered by years end, so if they play their cards correctly and give them all some rest (McMahon may not need much) i think rotating Timani and Maki at 8 (&/or 6) McMahon and Faing'a at 7, Reid (when fit) and Schatz to cover 6 and 7, they will be able to have a competitive 80 minute back row, set piece and breakdown. But as all agree we will find LT in the second row at some stage i believe. God we need Jeffries back and Day to stay fit
 

Mr Wobbly

Alan Cameron (40)
He's pitching LT as a lock, so yes. LT has turned himself into a solid 3rd option as test level (with Mumm or Fardy at 6 stepping up their lineout role). With the back row being pitched, there's a balance issue.


Was it really? Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like to see the stats.

Long story short, I think we'd probably get by with the back/second row mentioned if we ran a lot of 4-man lineouts, but the crowding in the mid field certainly takes away attacking options from lineouts.

Line outs are dynamite attacking ball, a lot of first phase tries are scored there.
I'll have to correct myself. We were worst in 2015 for lineout success but improved to 13th in 2016.

So far this year only the Jags are worse. Second last is a lot better than some of our other 2017 stats though.

You can see team stats by year here - http://www.sanzarrugby.com/superrugby/competition-stats/2017-team-ranking/
 

neilc

Bob Loudon (25)
From memory I thought Schatz was a pretty useful lineout jumper at the Reds - Reg might be able to clarify this. He doesn't seem to have been used much in Melbourne so far from the Rebels games I have watched, I guess the abundance of loose forwards there make him surplus.
 

swingpass

Peter Sullivan (51)
From memory I thought Schatz was a pretty useful lineout jumper at the Reds - Reg might be able to clarify this. He doesn't seem to have been used much in Melbourne so far from the Rebels games I have watched, I guess the abundance of loose forwards there make him surplus.
he has either started or been on the bench for the opening 4 games but picked up an injury. will almost certainlystart in South africa
 

GoMelbRebels

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
VICTORIAN RUGBY UNION BOARD UPDATE

The Victorian Rugby Union (VRU) Board and Management are working closely with the Melbourne Rebels Rugby Union Ltd Board and Management (MRRU), Australian Rugby Union (ARU) and the State Government of Victoria to retain our Super Rugby team in Melbourne.

The VRU fully support the continuation of the Melbourne Rebels in the Super Rugby competition. Further, the VRU is fully supportive of the ARU’s desire to grow Rugby’s participation levels across the country. In that regard, the Rebels have been the most significant catalyst for Rugby’s growth in Victoria since their arrival 6 years ago. Indeed, since the inception of the Melbourne Rebels in 2011, Victorian Rugby participation has increased by 97 per cent.

As reported on 10 April 2016, Record Growth For Victorian Rugby the Victorian Rugby Union experienced unprecedented growth in 2016. Participation in the state has increased 38 per cent in 2016, to 15,829 participants, through 15-a-side Rugby, Sevens Rugby, VIVA 7s and Game-On primary school development program.

Along with growth in participation, VRU has seen record success at both National and International levels. In 2016 Victoria produced four Australian Schoolboys, eight Australian U20s representatives, two Australian Youth 7s and one Australian Wallaroo. The Victorian U18 Schoolboys team finished fourth at the National Championships behind NSW 1, NSW 2 and Combined States (defeating Queensland 1) and the Melbourne Rebels U20s qualified for the Super U20s final against Queensland (defeating NSW in the pool stages). In the critical pathways of U18s and U/20s, Victoria now clearly ranks as the third most successful Rugby province in the country.

Currently seven local Victorians have progressed through the Victorian Elite Pathway and have a contract with the Melbourne Rebels (Jordan Uelese, Rob Leota, Sione Tuipulotu, Trevor Hosea, Ah-Mu Tuimalealiifano, Ikapote Tupai & Fereti Sa’aga). There are a further two players who have progressed through the local Dewar Shield competition and have been contracted by the Melbourne Rebels (Sefa Naivalu and Murray Douglas).

Victorian Rugby continues to diversify the game to reflect the communities we live in, with growth in our women’s and youth girls competition (Shepparton the first rural club to enter a women’s team in 2017), Masters Rugby, Wheelchair Rugby (signed Partnership with Disability Sport and Recreation in February 2017) and the Melbourne Chargers, winners of the Bingham Cup in 2016.

The Victorian Rugby Union has a rich history spanning over 100 years. Sir Edward Weary Dunlop was the first born Victorian to play for Wallabies, Ewen McKenzie represented the Wallabies on 51 occasions and in more recent years Christian Lealiifano and Digby Ioane played their Junior Rugby in Victoria before playing for the Wallabies.

Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world and is forecast to be the largest city in Australia within 15 years. Victoria is the fastest growing state in Australia with in excess of 6 Million people residing in the state. The VRU’s principle objective is to grow the game of Rugby in Victoria.

-end-
 

Highlander35

Steve Williams (59)
Yeah righto..​
The World bit always gets me too. Propaganda is funny.

Hard to argue about it in terms of Australia though.

Grand Prix, Phillip Island MotoGP & Superbikes, Grand Slam, Australian Masters, Melbourne Cup, just in terms of Events.

Then teams, usually successful and often multiple, in all major national sporting competitions.
 

brokendown

Bill McLean (32)
please get someone to write the blurb who has the understanding of the difference between "principle" and "principal"
thank you:)
 
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