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Quade telling it how it is

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Ignoto

Greg Davis (50)
Seems JON has heard your calls for action.

Does it annoy anyone else that there's no closing quotation market on each of statements by O'Neil while there's an opening one for each line? Did they mean to put this as a proper paragraph or that each sentence gets a new line?
 

Dam0

Dave Cowper (27)
Does it annoy anyone else that there's no closing quotation market on each of statements by O'Neil while there's an opening one for each line? Did they mean to put this as a proper paragraph or that each sentence gets a new line?

I have seen this practice before. I guess they want to remind the reader it is a quote, but don't want to make it look like it is a series of quotes. Dunno if it is right or wrong but it is not uncommon.
 

blues recovery

Billy Sheehan (19)
Got to get this off my chest. This situation is probably the worst scene in Australian Rugby for some time amongst a mountain of bad scenes.
One of the great things about australian rugby is the aspiration of young kids to wear the Gold jersey.
Here is an individual who refuses to wear the jersey because of the enviroment. Is it the enviroment that cooincidentaly means that basically every off field drama in the game has him as the common denominator. As someone with some inside knoweldge, every time I hear that he is on a plane from Brisbane to elsewhere I panic.
Is it the enviroment that caused him to big mouth before the RWC about what he was going to do to Richie, causing the NZ public to turn him into a blubbering mess . Any chance we had to win the thing went out the window because he lost his shit.
Is it the enviroment that now has him sounding like a clone of that doyen of Australian sporting grace Anthony Mundine.

Anybody who thinks this whole thing is not a cleverly contrived marketing ploy by nasser is kidding themselves. And as for the whole bit about his commitment to the Reds, he knows if the ARU dont sign off on his contract he has no Reds deal. So he can slip off quietley elsewhere , he saves face with the Reds and its all the ARU fault.
But just about the worst piece of this is watching the sychophants on the Rugby Club ask all the Dorothy Dixer questions of the bloke who by the way has a commercial arrangement with Fox Sports. Im appalled that a bloke who bleed on the rugby field for the wallabies like Kearns can sit there listen to this clap trap and not want to put one on his chin. I have watched this nonsense of a show for the last time.
ARU please finish this . Show some leadership, send him on his way and lets get some pride back in the jersey from amongst the thousands of young blokes who would cut of their left one to have one stab at what this ungrateful bloke disses.
 

Sir Arthur Higgins

Dick Tooth (41)
No to the above. i thought it was inappropriate of quade to come out on twitter the way he did. childish and immature in fact.
i think he made himself look like a completely selfish idiot who thinks its his way or the highway.
JON's response was measured and telling.
also agree with further above - who does this guy think he is? if JOC (James O'Connor) and Lealifano were healthy, QC (Quade Cooper) would be the number 3 10 in australia based on his form since the start of the world cup.
get over yourself mate and pick your attitude up.
 

ACT Crusader

Jim Lenehan (48)
Got to get this off my chest. This situation is probably the worst scene in Australian Rugby for some time amongst a mountain of bad scenes.
One of the great things about australian rugby is the aspiration of young kids to wear the Gold jersey.
Here is an individual who refuses to wear the jersey because of the enviroment. Is it the enviroment that cooincidentaly means that basically every off field drama in the game has him as the common denominator. As someone with some inside knoweldge, every time I hear that he is on a plane from Brisbane to elsewhere I panic.
Is it the enviroment that caused him to big mouth before the RWC about what he was going to do to Richie, causing the NZ public to turn him into a blubbering mess . Any chance we had to win the thing went out the window because he lost his shit.
Is it the enviroment that now has him sounding like a clone of that doyen of Australian sporting grace Anthony Mundine.

Anybody who thinks this whole thing is not a cleverly contrived marketing ploy by nasser is kidding themselves. And as for the whole bit about his commitment to the Reds, he knows if the ARU dont sign off on his contract he has no Reds deal. So he can slip off quietley elsewhere , he saves face with the Reds and its all the ARU fault.
But just about the worst piece of this is watching the sychophants on the Rugby Club ask all the Dorothy Dixer questions of the bloke who by the way has a commercial arrangement with Fox Sports. Im appalled that a bloke who bleed on the rugby field for the wallabies like Kearns can sit there listen to this clap trap and not want to put one on his chin. I have watched this nonsense of a show for the last time.
ARU please finish this . Show some leadership, send him on his way and lets get some pride back in the jersey from amongst the thousands of young blokes who would cut of their left one to have one stab at what this ungrateful bloke disses.

BR I know you're ranting and probably fed up with it all, so don't take this the wrong way but when I read the bolded part I couldn't stop laughing. How very true.....
 
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Lee Enfield

Jimmy Flynn (14)
My opinion hasn't changed. Both sides are playing their cards close to their chests and revealling only the bits they want us to hear. There is more to all of this then what has been released by both parties.
I have thought this since not long after Deans took over. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Deans is just a puppet for the ARU power brokers and that he doesn't have that much control over player selections and team direction. I just can't fathom how Deans can come across has having no idea and looking like a deer in headlights, year after year and have his contract renewed with no questions asked or no significant improvement in results. There are times where Deans looks as baffled as the players when talking about selections, game plans and team direction.
 

Boomer

Alfred Walker (16)
I have seen this practice before. I guess they want to remind the reader it is a quote, but don't want to make it look like it is a series of quotes. Dunno if it is right or wrong but it is not uncommon.

Standard media practice, chaps. It's absolutely spot on.
 

jollyswagman

Ron Walden (29)
I apologize if this article has been linked to, or posted before...from one of my least favorite rugby jounalists but an interesting point of view.....

from NZ Herald - Gregor Paul


"With Quade Cooper having hit the self-destruct button, it is hard not to ponder how different things might have been had he committed to New Zealand and not Australia.
Would he now be a frothing mass of resentment and bitterness had he been playing over here these last five years? Would New Zealand have destroyed his confidence the way Australia so obviously has?
He's just 24 and that could be him...off to France or off to the NRL and possibly never going to be sighted in a Wallaby jersey again.
That's an enormous waste of talent and there is no doubt he is a talent - a point which is readily and easily lost when it comes to talking about Cooper these days. There is, or at least there was, more than a touch of Carlos Spencer about Cooper. He's at his best when he's left to follow his instincts, play what he sees and probe and dart: try his tricks and not fear the consequences of trying. During Super Rugby in 2011, Cooper was sensationally good.
Remember how he could escape from any defence? Remember how he could ignite his backs and counter attack from anywhere? Remember how he had this arsenal of kicks - short ones, tricky ones, clever ones - that he could pull out at any time and change the angle of attack and pressure point on the defence? He was brilliant and the All Blacks feared him.
Cooper, in tandem with Will Genia, were the new George Gregan and Stephen Larkham with the potential to be better.
But that 'Impossible to stop Cooper' has been turned into an almost 'Impossible to start Cooper'. Whether it is the influence of Wallaby coach Robbie Deans, injury or Generation Y disgruntlement - Cooper is not the player he was 18 months ago. Not even close and hasn't been close since Super Rugby finished in June last year.
The strange part is that from the outside looking in, nothing has been done to help Cooper: Deans has appeared to watch on as fascinated as the rest of us to see how hard Cooper will hit the ground. It just wouldn't have happened had Cooper played here: welfare is a huge part of the New Zealand Rugby Union set up these days. Jimmy Cowan was saved from alcoholic oblivion as was Zac Guildford. The emphasis here is as much on the person as it is the player - a realisation the two can't be treated in isolation.
Cooper would have been cuddled and loved back into form if he was contracted in New Zealand - such raw talent rarely gets wasted here. Not only that, but his natural game would have been encouraged and licensed. Instead, he's been put in a creative strait-jacket by the Wallabies, and worse, barely helped or supported as he struggles with various issues.
Yes he was daft in the way he provoked and then continued to provoke Richie McCaw throughout 2010 and last year, but there was no one defending his case from across the Tasman. Public support, private counselling and behaviour adjustment - that's the go over here - but obviously not over there.
Australia had something in Cooper and they have probably lost him now. New Zealand wouldn't have been so careless."

My thoughts; I have no idea how this is all going to play out in the coming weeks but I am sure that I am going to be really pissed off and disappointed should we lose QC (Quade Cooper) to another code or overseas. It would be a huge loss to Australian Rugby and down right embarrassing. I would much rather the ARU be overhauled and Deans sent packing that lose Cooper. It is obvious that the ARU and Mr Deans have no idea how to get the best out of QC (Quade Cooper) and that is a joke. Prior to the infamous "toxic" tweet there had been all sorts of different discussion on the state of the game, the ARU and JON competence, RD's pending sacking and the rumors of player discontent at the top level. We had heard players comment about a lack of structure in camp and we had all been talking about inability of the team to execute a relevant game plan. What has happened to all of that stuff in light of the Cooper issue? Surely he can't be the "lone gunman" and if not, then I wish someone else in the team would speak up and give him some support....someone that is a little more adept at delivering a message would help.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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My thoughts; I have no idea how this is all going to play out in the coming weeks but I am sure that I am going to be really pissed off and disappointed should we lose QC (Quade Cooper) to another code or overseas. It would be a huge loss to Australian Rugby and down right embarrassing. I would much rather the ARU be overhauled and Deans sent packing that lose Cooper. It is obvious that the ARU and Mr Deans have no idea how to get the best out of QC (Quade Cooper) and that is a joke. Prior to the infamous "toxic" tweet there had been all sorts of different discussion on the state of the game, the ARU and JON competence, RD's pending sacking and the rumors of player discontent at the top level. We had heard players comment about a lack of structure in camp and we had all been talking about inability of the team to execute a relevant game plan. What has happened to all of that stuff in light of the Cooper issue? Surely he can't be the "lone gunman" and if not, then I wish someone else in the team would speak up and give him some support..someone that is a little more adept at delivering a message would help.

Quade has effectively ruled out any of these things and ruined his own rugby career in the process.

He can now be the poster child for how not to approach this sort of issue.
 

gel

Ken Catchpole (46)
I still maintain my earlier comment, it is really just a young guy venting his frustrations without much thought to the consequences. Nothing's changed with his latest comments on the rugby club.

Is he correct? I strongly suspect so. The wallabies do NOT look happy playing since before the World Cup. Even when they win, they tend to look relieved more than happy (generally). Letters from JON can say whatever they want, what I see on the field says differently.

Was/is his method of delivery apt? Nope.

Should he be the 10 for the wallabies? Yes.

Are RD and JON good for Australian rugby overall? No
 

I like to watch

David Codey (61)
.... Surely he can't be the "lone gunman" and if not, then I wish someone else in the team would speak up and give him some support..someone that is a little more adept at delivering a message would help.
Unless the support for QC (Quade Cooper) is unanimous they should say nothing.Having half a dozen guys on each side would be a disaster.
What he did last night indicates he has no further intentions of playing for the Wobs. He might have couched in terms of if this happens or that happens, but it would have been explained to him that what he did last night was a one way ticket out.
He has moved on so should we.
 

Richo

John Thornett (49)
Anybody who thinks this whole thing is not a cleverly contrived marketing ploy by nasser is kidding themselves. And as for the whole bit about his commitment to the Reds, he knows if the ARU dont sign off on his contract he has no Reds deal. So he can slip off quietley elsewhere , he saves face with the Reds and its all the ARU fault.

I agree with a lot of what you say, but I just don't get this. If Quade has no Reds or ARU deal, then he has no leverage with league clubs unless he gets union offers from Europe. Not to mention that this whole scenario has, for most people, lessened their opinion of the bloke. What's the masterful end game? What's the ploy?
 

jollyswagman

Ron Walden (29)
Is a current Wallaby player who makes these sort of comments in public in the middle of our test season good for Australian rugby?

Absolutely not.

Agree....but I would argue that "Australian Rugby" was already in critical condition prior to the QC (Quade Cooper) incident. Unfortunately he has put himself in the position of becoming a scapegoat for the ARU. There has to be massive changes at the top level and a new coach is needed badly. The longer this bunch stick around the more damage will be done by those lower down the totem pole as they too lose patience with a broken system. I agree that the QC (Quade Cooper) incident is not good for the game but something had to give and I don't resent him for speaking out.
 

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David Codey (61)
He has agreed to terms somewhere else.This is about the ARU withdrawing their contract, thus invalidating the Reds contract that he has signed.
....... I reckon, I mean I think, I mean I guess.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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I think Quade Cooper has achieved the opposite though.

I would almost put the house on Deans staying around for the Lions tour now.

If he manages to win at least one Lions test, you can probably lock him in for the 2015 RWC.

There is absolutely no way the ARU is going to do anything dramatic anytime soon which would give credence to what Quade Cooper has been whinging about.
 
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