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Melbourne Rebels 2011

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Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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So Palmer was dumb for going to the Brumbies and now Weeks is dumb for going to Melbourne?

The only criticism I have of either is that, reportedly, Weeks did not tell Link of his decision.

Weeks has a connection with his old Uni coach, Hill, in Melbourne and Palmer is backing himself to get more game time next year. Who are we to 2nd guess these fine young players?

It's a forum and we have to discuss something? As you were then.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
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Lee Grant said:
So Palmer was dumb for going to the Brumbies and now Weeks is dumb for going to Melbourne?

The only criticism I have of either is that, reportedly, Weeks did not tell Link of his decision.

Weeks has a connection with his old Uni coach, Hill, in Melbourne and Palmer is backing himself to get more game time next year. Who are we to 2nd guess these fine young players?

It's a forum and we have to discuss something? As you were then.

My 200 Indonesian Rupiah's worth is that Palmer, Weeks and Byrne have made very wise career choices. I wish them all well.
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
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Eddie macguire now part of the team?

Eddie McGuire to help promote Rebels

* Russell Gould
* From: Herald Sun
* March 19, 2010 12:00AM

THE Melbourne Rebels have enlisted the help of Collingwood president Eddie McGuire to sell the virtues of the city and the club to prospective recruits.

In a five-minute video, which is the brainchild of Rebels chief executive Brian Waldron, McGuire joins Rebels coach Rod Macqueen and chairman Harold Mitchell in promoting Melbourne as the sporting capital of the world.

It will be sent to "selected" players and managers during the course of the next few weeks in a bid to entice them to join the new Super rugby franchise.

Macqueen said he had never used such a mechanism to sell his message, but that it had significant merit in this situation.

"We have to use something like the video because we are talking about players from overseas who have to know a bit about Melbourne," Macqueen said yesterday.

"That is part of the professionalism of this outfit."

A week has passed since the embargo on signing local talent was lifted and the Rebels have only announced one player, Queensland prop Laurie Weeks, as officially contracted.

But Macqueen denied he or the club was getting knocked back from players they had approached.

He said the Rebels were mindful of not upsetting the other Australian clubs during their season and would maintain a "softly, softly" recruiting method.

"We are not about beating the drums," Macqueen said yesterday.

"We're going through this methodically. We've got three months ... we don't have to rush.

"It was never going to be easy and I am reasonably happy with where we are at the moment."

Macqueen confirmed he had held a series of talks with former NRL star Mark Gasnier, as had Waldron, and said he hoped to land him if he chose to return home to Australia.

"It's all part of an ongoing process, and if or when the opportunity looks right for him and the Australian Rugby Union talk to him, there is a good chance we would put something to him," Macqueen said.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
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The Australian is reporting that Richard Kingi and Lachie Mitchell, have been signed - Rebel Army

Isn't well resourced but they haven't posted any misleading information yet.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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It is understood the diminutive Fairbanks, the former Queensland and Brumbies inside centre, was politely told thanks, but no thanks. The Rebels were interested in big centres only.

This is why the Rebels chased NSW Waratahs centre Tom Carter and still hope veteran Wallabies and Brumbies midfielder Stirling Mortlock will move to Melbourne.

The Rebels are also going hard for dynamic Auckland Blues inside centre Benson Stanley, who has an Australian passport after being born in NSW.

What this tells us is that Rebels head coach Rod Macqueen is looking to create the Melbourne team in the image of his all-conquering Wallabies side from 1998 to 2001.

When Macqueen was coaching the Wallabies he coined the phrase "foracks", an amalgam of forwards and backs.

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* Where are big names the Rebels promised The Australian, 4 days ago
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* Cordingley courted by Rebels Fox Sports, 11 Mar 2010
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* Mortlock close to Rebels decision Herald Sun, 23 Feb 2010

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Macqueen demanded forwards run and pass like backs and backs ruck and maul like forwards, which was why he liked big, physical midfielders such as Dan Herbert and Nathan Grey following the retirement of Tim Horan.

Indications are that Macqueen is placing emphasis on two areas of his success with the Wallabies.

Under Macqueen, the Rebels will play a highly structured game and he is seeking intelligent players to carry out the game plan.

The distinguishing features of the Macqueen-coached Wallabies were attention to detail and innovation.

They could take on more athletically gifted All Blacks teams and more physical Springboks sides and beat them with smarts.

It could be argued that in re-creating this style of play, Macqueen is living in the past and there are whispers that after 10 years out of coaching, he is out of touch with the modern game.

Don't believe it.

Macqueen achieved extraordinary success in guiding the NSW Waratahs to an undefeated season in 1991, taking the Brumbies to the Super 12 final in just their second year of existence in 1997 and winning world cups, Bledisloe cups, Tri-Nations trophies and British and Irish Lions series with the Wallabies.

Macqueen, you see, is a perfectionist. He demands nothing less in any activity whether it is art, surfing, business or rugby.

He has also stayed closely involved with rugby as a consultant to various unions and as a member of the IRB's rugby committee, which wrote the recent experimental law variations.

If there is one thing Macqueen may have to come to grips with, it is dealing with Generation-Y players, who have known nothing but professional rugby.

When Macqueen coached the Waratahs they were amateurs. When he coached the Brumbies the game was in transition from amateurism to professionalism.

In many ways, today's young rugby players have more in common with AFL and NRL players than the Wallabies of yesteryear.

Macqueen was always one step ahead. As they say, everything old is new again.

lDon't tell anyone, but backrower Scott Higginbotham has re-signed with the Queensland Reds.

It's meant to be a secret. Not only have the Reds deliberately not announced Higginbotham's re-signing, but they have told him not to tell anyone.

Why the secrecy is anyone's guess. Before the Reds departed for South Africa last Friday for a three-game tour, coach Ewen McKenzie revealed 22 players had committed to the team for next season.

The Reds did announce the re-signings of the Fainga'a twins, Anthony and Saia, but McKenzie said they would not announce any further names because they wanted to focus on the "here and now" rather than 2011.

McKenzie's coyness has puzzled observers. The Brumbies and NSW Waratahs are announcing re-signings almost on a daily basis.

After so many woeful seasons, if the Reds had some good news to tell, you would think they would be screaming it from the rooftops.

a big physical backline? James Harvey, Lloyd Johansson, Ben Jacobs, Steve Kefu, et al>>
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
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Lee Grant said:
So Palmer was dumb for going to the Brumbies and now Weeks is dumb for going to Melbourne?
The only criticism I have of either is that, reportedly, Weeks did not tell Link of his decision.

Weeks has a connection with his old Uni coach, Hill, in Melbourne and Palmer is backing himself to get more game time next year. Who are we to 2nd guess these fine young players?

It's a forum and we have to discuss something? As you were then.
Could prove to be if Link ever steps up to the Wallaby coach spot.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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RugbyFuture said:
Eddie McGuire now part of the team?
Eddie McGuire to help promote Rebels
* From: Herald Sun * March 19, 2010 12:00AM

THE Melbourne Rebels have enlisted the help of Collingwood president Eddie McGuire to sell the virtues of the city and the club to prospective recruits.

In a five-minute video, which is the brainchild of Rebels chief executive Brian Waldron, McGuire joins Rebels coach Rod Macqueen and chairman Harold Mitchell in promoting Melbourne as the sporting capital of the world.

WTF? :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire:

Now listen here, Eddie, son: the sporting capital of the western world is that grand city in southern New South Wales called Wagga Wagga. And don't you forget that.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Wunderkid Luke Jones has signed with the Rebels. Obviously didn't like Perth.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Thanks.

The Force fans noses will be out of joint to lose this 3M clone - well, at the schools level he was.

Let's watch this space.
 

AussieDominance

Trevor Allan (34)
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Lee,

Luke's playing with Sydney Uni remember, think he might have got a few games in last season in the holidays or something...
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
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well obviously julian salvi is now aoutta the equation now that hes signed with the brumbies
 
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tranquility

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Luke Jones is a very good pickup. I have been really impressed so far that they Rebels have been very selective with who they have grabbed and have not just gone crazy with the contracts ala the Western Farce.
 
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tranquility

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Also you would have to think that Colby Finger would be on the move, either to the Reds or Bells
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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AD

Yeah, Luke will probably be able to play for Sydney Uni as the Force seem to release their players to do that now, and he will still be under contract to them. The Rebels will want him to be playing in grade this year too.

I don't know if he played any games for Colts in the holidays in 2009. During one vacation they were playing in the Oz Schools tournament and later the schools internationals were on.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
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Not too many of the players signed by the Rebels so far appear to have been on the lists of the many who claimed to know better than Rod Macqueen.
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
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Yeh the rebels havent had any big signing yet. Dont think they will be the most marketable team in super 14, which isnt good for a new team! But im happy about how selective they have been. I got a feeling Rod Mcqueen will be great things down south. Im predicting an average first year followed by a pretty impressive second season (once players and the Club have established things, and McQueen has had time to mould his players).
 
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