England v Springboks - Twickenham

[Shelts89]

Habana can feel hard done by there. On the other hand that was a lovely 30 odd metre maul to score

 

[light]

England getting the rub of the green.

Habana decision a head-scratcher but wow English maul.

 

[light]

Boks maul! Man down and still steamroll over

 

[BabyBlueElephant]

Cracker of a game this.

 

[USARugger]

Cue PN to unleash a tirade on how fascinating it is to see two tough, uncompromising forward-orientated teams bash each other in set-pieces and mauls for the lion's share of the first half.

And how you can not possibly appreciate the beauty of 10 man rugby because you're an American

Honestly if the Philadelphia Eagles had a Saffa on staff encouraging some more the NFL equivalent of Channel 1 ball running, they'd be undefeated on the season so far and not 7-2

Multiple downs (against San Francisco and Arizona) on the 1yd line and we run play action out of the shotgun instead of just giving the rock to our 240lb RB/FB hybrid and let him barge over.

Now, back to the bar fight.

 

[Shelts89]

Cracker of a second half at least

 

[BabyBlueElephant]

Bloody hell Hartley. That should be his career over. Anyone pulling that sort of stuff in a tight game is not what you need.

 

[Shelts89]

Hartley off for 10

 

[Bairdy]

Coenie coming on for JdP; surely there is a TH available in South Africa - with Malherbe injured - that is better than playing a natural LH at TH?

 

[Bairdy]

England's fortunes in the November tests are eerily similar to their 2012 November tests.

Were close in their games against Australia and South Africa but came up short. Then the disappointment culminated in that blinder against the ABs. Hope we're not on the end of a beat down

 

[KevinO]

Great game, don't think Farrell is the leader this English side should be taking into the World Cup.

 

[Shelts89]

We're just not smart enough when under pressure. Same as wales against you lot last week. On the plus I think Ben Morgan had a stormer and will take the 8 jersey against Samoa and Oz. I would also start Ford, i think we did more in attack in the 15 minutes he was on than the whole time we had Farrell on. But I think against you lot Farrell will still get the nod.

Congrats to the Boks though.

 

[Bardon]

Interesting how aggressive the Sky interview of Stuart Lancaster was. Pressure really mounting on him now and it will only get more and more intense as the RWC approaches.

 

[BabyBlueElephant]

Even 10 months out from the RWC, the manner of that loss was a bit of a concern. A lot of silly mistakes, the Bok's were good for their money but England gifted them a lot of their points. Too many knock ons, too many poor kicks, too many infringements and blatant fouls. Hartleys stamp was braindead. You might get away with that at local club level, but when you're known for that sort of stuff in a pro match where you know its impossible to miss fouls now with the TMO replays, why the F*** would you go for it.

The team look completely different to the one at the 6N. Not quite sure whats going on there, will be interesting to see how they react for the Aussie game in two weeks.

 

[Shelts89]

5 losses in a row... Can't really blame the media for getting a bit more aggressive with the questions. He's had a few years with out any media pressure to get us this far. I did like the way he said there will be changes when questioned about the half backs.

 

[Mortal Wombat]

Interesting how aggressive the Sky interview of Stuart Lancaster was. Pressure really mounting on him now and it will only get more and more intense as the RWC approaches.

If the Wallabies manage to get over them in a couple of weeks, the knives really will come out.

If there's one thing the Poms do better than anyone, it's catch and kill their own.

 

[Biffo]

i was watching the game with two 20 something South Africans. they were on about the stupidity of retaining Morne Steyn in the Bokke squad when Pollard and Lambie are there. their point was that outside backs like Serfontein, Habana, JPP, Henricks and le Roux must be served properly if they are to prosper and Steyn isn't the man to get them running.

one of the blokes then asked me what i thought of Farrell and was he the equivalent to Farrell problem.
i rolled my eyes.
they bought me a drink.

 

[Biffo]

Honestly if the Philadelphia Eagles had a Saffa on staff encouraging some more the NFL equivalent of Channel 1 ball running, they'd be undefeated on the season so far and not 7-2

Multiple downs (against San Francisco and Arizona) on the 1yd line and we run play action out of the shotgun instead of just giving the rock to our 240lb RB/FB hybrid and let him barge over.

Now, back to the bar fight.

err, could you please give us a report on some tennis, or similar, that i can understand?

 

[Ulrich]

No surprise in the end.

 

[Shelts89]

No surprise in the end.

I am extremely disappointed, despondent would be a better word actually. The game was largely lost in the opening 20 minutes giving away soft points. We looked clueless in attack (resulting in one of your tries) with out starting half backs. Lancaster blamed it on a lack of experience but that doesn't wash when our 9 is getting his 50th cap and the 10 must be getting close to 30 caps.