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Michael Lynagh (62)
Yeah, she's up there in the annoying stakes. I just love how hammy it all is, and how cheap the production is. It's gold.
Channel 9 continues the tradition of absymal free to air rugby coverage...
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Yeah, she's up there in the annoying stakes. I just love how hammy it all is, and how cheap the production is. It's gold.
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TV logic (oxymoron)
You say re the success of the Oz RWC TV ratings,
‘...RWC that is hosted in Australia compared to one hosted overseas is apples and oranges. Of course there was a lot more excitement from the general public regarding the RWC on Australian soil'.’
The Soccer World Cups (NOT ON AUSTRALIAN SOIL & AROUND THE SAME TIMINGS AS THIS NZ RWC) had good TV coverage followed by good ratings. While soccer has more registered players, it has nothing like the success of the Wallabies in terms of the status their opposition, i.e. against top world seeded teams & they barely make their World Cups.
You say, ‘Channel 9's interest is to get the best ratings from the material they have which seemingly means they aren't interested in showing many/any non-Aussie pool games.’
‘SEEMINGLY MEANS’?!!...that’s the basis of your acceptance and understanding your grand statement ‘Most of us can understand the reasons why there aren't’
Simply accepting what CH9, or any networks, choosers to serve up & justify for its obvious business aim is lazy & self defeatist. REMEMBER, despite all their ‘SEEMINGLY’ bright business decisions on sport coverage…Ch9s’ ratings & sport viewing has been plummeting for years for most, if not all, it sports televising.
Again this was Ch9’s opportunity to regain it long lost sports credentials! So far, it continues to fail.
Which brings me back to the good old boys…the ARU. No one, but you, is suggesting that ARU might have to promote rugby by televising it or controlling the programming.
Some ARU facts of their aims & responsibilities (& remember, READ IT)
ARU’S official VISION FOR AUSTRALIAN RUGBY
FOR Australia to be a real and respected world power in Rugby on an ongoing basis, displaying innovation, integrity, professionalism and teamwork, through Australian Rugby:
• Developing substantially more mass entertainment presence domestically and internationally;
• + other aims
ARU do your job … lobby Ch9 to improve their coverage & ask their own Wallaby Sponsors to join them (Vodafone and Bundaberg Rum -> big TV advertisers).
So again good game coverage worked for the Oz RWC, got good ratings & heightened interest in RU......& for this RWC, this would successfully be the Opening ceremony and all games where BOTH TEAMS are from high seeded Nth & Sth hemisphere nations. Either live, & where not possible short 1/2-1hr delay....all other games covered in a 1hr highlights package, later in the evening.
You say re the success of the Oz RWC TV ratings,
‘...RWC that is hosted in Australia compared to one hosted overseas is apples and oranges. Of course there was a lot more excitement from the general public regarding the RWC on Australian soil'.’
The Soccer World Cups (NOT ON AUSTRALIAN SOIL & AROUND THE SAME TIMINGS AS THIS NZ RWC) had good TV coverage followed by good ratings. While soccer has more registered players, it has nothing like the success of the Wallabies in terms of the status their opposition, i.e. against top world seeded teams & they barely make their World Cups.
You say, ‘Channel 9's interest is to get the best ratings from the material they have which seemingly means they aren't interested in showing many/any non-Aussie pool games.’
‘SEEMINGLY MEANS’?!!...that’s the basis of your acceptance and understanding your grand statement ‘Most of us can understand the reasons why there aren't’
Simply accepting what CH9, or any networks, choosers to serve up & justify for its obvious business aim is lazy & self defeatist. REMEMBER, despite all their ‘SEEMINGLY’ bright business decisions on sport coverage…Ch9s’ ratings & sport viewing has been plummeting for years for most, if not all, it sports televising.
Again this was Ch9’s opportunity to regain it long lost sports credentials! So far, it continues to fail.
Which brings me back to the good old boys…the ARU. No one, but you, is suggesting that ARU might have to promote rugby by televising it or controlling the programming.
Some ARU facts of their aims & responsibilities (& remember, READ IT)
ARU’S official VISION FOR AUSTRALIAN RUGBY
FOR Australia to be a real and respected world power in Rugby on an ongoing basis, displaying innovation, integrity, professionalism and teamwork, through Australian Rugby:
• Developing substantially more mass entertainment presence domestically and internationally;
• + other aims
ARU do your job … lobby Ch9 to improve their coverage & ask their own Wallaby Sponsors to join them (Vodafone and Bundaberg Rum -> big TV advertisers).
So again good game coverage worked for the Oz RWC, got good ratings & heightened interest in RU......& for this RWC, this would successfully be the Opening ceremony and all games where BOTH TEAMS are from high seeded Nth & Sth hemisphere nations. Either live, & where not possible short 1/2-1hr delay....all other games covered in a 1hr highlights package, later in the evening.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
dear Wooden Horse,
you have missed the point entirely. The law is that Australian games must be shown live or near of on a commercial network unless an application has been made and approved to move it to a digital channel (aus ireland will be on gem).
The ARU dont have the rights to sell this tournament, the IRB sell it directly to the highest bidder in each country. In australia that was Nine, By securing the most money when the IRB divides checks up for the playing countries it means they get more money.
You have no idea if the ARU is lobbying or not, They are not going to come out and say they hate channel nine when they want channel nine to feature and talk highly of a product they have on there station that they want people to watch. The smart bussiness thing to do from the ARU is to nudge from behind the scene without talking down or pissing off nine that then could pull coverage from there news, other sports shows and advertising due to the bad relationship.
and lastly, Channel ( did not buy the rights to relaunch there sports reputation, the cricket is the top rating sport in summer and Rugby league rates its pants off all winter, they dont need union, they basically saw that it was a bargin cos no one else wanted it either. there relying on the wallabies performing to get ratings at the back end of the comp to make there money back and hopefully turn a profit.
as was said earlier, im a mad union supporter but the reality is sticking shit against a wall doesnt mean people are going to stop and take a look.
you have missed the point entirely. The law is that Australian games must be shown live or near of on a commercial network unless an application has been made and approved to move it to a digital channel (aus ireland will be on gem).
The ARU dont have the rights to sell this tournament, the IRB sell it directly to the highest bidder in each country. In australia that was Nine, By securing the most money when the IRB divides checks up for the playing countries it means they get more money.
You have no idea if the ARU is lobbying or not, They are not going to come out and say they hate channel nine when they want channel nine to feature and talk highly of a product they have on there station that they want people to watch. The smart bussiness thing to do from the ARU is to nudge from behind the scene without talking down or pissing off nine that then could pull coverage from there news, other sports shows and advertising due to the bad relationship.
and lastly, Channel ( did not buy the rights to relaunch there sports reputation, the cricket is the top rating sport in summer and Rugby league rates its pants off all winter, they dont need union, they basically saw that it was a bargin cos no one else wanted it either. there relying on the wallabies performing to get ratings at the back end of the comp to make there money back and hopefully turn a profit.
as was said earlier, im a mad union supporter but the reality is sticking shit against a wall doesnt mean people are going to stop and take a look.
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
Well you wont change things if they can never see it
I think the entire point is Channel 9 does think more people will see the NZ vs Tonga game if they show it after the rugby league.
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BRIX
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Braveheart81must shamefully admit that I'm going to ANZ Stadium tomorrow night to watch my beloved Tigers. I'll definitely be watching the ABs and Tonga when I get home though.[/QUOTE said:
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Peter Burge (5)
It's good, barbar. I tried it out over the Super finals, and was pleasantly surprised. I haven't seen it side-by-side with regular fox, but I don't think there is any noticeable difference in quality, but I guess maybe that depends on your net speed.
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Dick Tooth (41)
i asked a friend back home what kind of coverage the RWC was getting in canada. his reply "fantastic, click on the link http://tsn.ca/rugby/feature/?id=47571 "
basically every single game.
that's on a free to air channel. most games are on tsn2, the 'gem' equivalent, but a heap are on the main channel.
thanks channel 9!
basically every single game.
that's on a free to air channel. most games are on tsn2, the 'gem' equivalent, but a heap are on the main channel.
thanks channel 9!
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Army_Gav
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Impressive.
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Army_Gav
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Melbourne will get the opening game LIVE on GEM before NSW/QLD: http://www.nine.com.au/gem/default.aspx
CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT???
CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT???
Crow
Jimmy Flynn (14)
At the moment I would believe that Nine would show a documentary on quilting aardvarks, shown for the benefit of the Woy Woy disabled knitter's society before a rugby game.
waratahjesus
Greg Davis (50)
it means that in sydney, coming on right after the tigers v dragons nrl final, there hoping to find an audience for it.
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Army_Gav
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Argies vs Poms is LIVE also tomorrow night at 6:30pm on GEM in Melbourne!
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Darby Loudon (17)
can't continue the good fight anymore, wide world of flogs banned me. they get pissy over any mention of len downs (melbourne programming manager/eddie's chief flog) who is basically the person responsible for not showing any league or union games in melbourne.
Because that is illegal and we don't condone breaking the law,
Unless you're Richie McCaw you might get caught.
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Syd Malcolm (24)
TSN is not free to air. It's on cable.
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Jimmy Flynn (14)
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