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Australian Schoolboys & National Championship 2010

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TheTruth

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Watched the WA boys run around yesterday - big unit at No.3 and good as well - thought the LHP and THP both belted the QLD 1's front line boys each scrum - just a bit unusual that some boys from the west dominated the more favoured lads. Big Bermo in trouble here with these guys - also had a great work ethic which misses from the Bermo's game.
 
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TheTruth said:
Watched the WA boys run around yesterday - big unit at No.3 and good as well - thought the LHP and THP both belted the QLD 1's front line boys each scrum - just a bit unusual that some boys from the west dominated the more favoured lads. Big Bermo in trouble here with these guys - also had a great work ethic which misses from the Bermo's game.
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I thought the WA front row totally dominated the Qld unit as well. I like Bermo and it was a shame he didn't get too much game time yesterday to compare properly.
 
Lee Grant

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John Eales (66)
Overseer said:
One of these has the genes and test rugby in the blood the other doesn't.
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observer said:
The other one has pretty good genes too!
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Very good observer. Let's let overseer work that one out if he can.

PS I think you need to revise your Pool B Points.

TheTruth said:
Watched the WA boys run around yesterday - big unit at No.3 and good as well - thought the LHP and THP both belted the QLD 1's front line boys each scrum - just a bit unusual that some boys from the west dominated the more favoured lads. Big Bermo in trouble here with these guys - also had a great work ethic which misses from the Bermo's game.
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The THP is Oliver Hoskins who had a good tournament in 2009 and showed up later in the year as WA captain in the U/16 tournament at Riverview and was the best THP of the week IMO. His appearance surprised me because he played like a senior schoolboy in the Opens and I had no clue that he was so young. On that basis last year I mentioned him as a future Force player and it looks like that nothing has changed to quash that prediction.



This comp is a lot better in structure than previous championships because of the addition of the Vic and WA teams and the retention of the Combined States team, though it is selected differently and could probably do with a different name.

Before every team played a non-competition game as one of the four; now every game is a competition game.

We will see some Qld and NSW lads in the CS team getting in one of the two Oz Schools teams and it could be as early as this year. Any such lad will feel exhilarated as much as he was dejected when he was overlooked for his state team. It will be a nice serve to the State selectors the first time one gets into the Oz Schools 1st XV.

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Lee Grant

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John Eales (66)
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In my opinion, from what I have seen this year, it is just unfortunate that the young Nudgee prop Kite is unavailable through injury, he is a better proposition than Bermo. Just very unlucky I guess for the young man.
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It happens every year but if they are good enough they can still get picked for the one of the Oz Schools teams - usually the A team unless he is a schoolboy superstar. Then he can work his way into the Ones team if he has a blinder for the Twos

The problem is for guys who are not at that level and were at the margin of being selected for their state side, or not, but never had a shot.
 
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Frank Nicholson (4)
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I thought the WA front row totally dominated the Qld unit as well. I like Bermo and it was a shame he didn't get too much game time yesterday to compare properly.
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I think you will find that neither of the qld 1 props , 1 and 3, played any time yesterday. WA no.3 was the pick of the props for the first 10 minutes then fell right out of alot of the action, seems too unfit for this level.
 
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Bob Davidson (42)
Lee Grant said:
This comp is a lot better in structure than previous championships because of the addition of the Vic and WA teams and the retention of the Combined States team, though it is selected differently and could probably do with a different name.
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Yes a good rugby name eg Barbarians
 
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Wrinkled Rat

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Eyes and Ears said:
Yes a good rugby name eg Barbarians
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Agreed and given clearly articulated criteria, if it 'dealers choice' by selectors and coach, say it. if it's shadow player pecking order say it.

Good luck to all this afternoon and this evening. Hoping that the injuries are kept to a minimum and the 60 minute game time rule is managed sensibly.
 
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saviour road

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Lee Grant said:
Very good observer. Let's let overseer work that one out if he can.

I thought it very witty so I would assume as he writ it he would get it. Lee Grant: Don't be so sure. observer is probably a Queenslander. (And what did I mean by that?)
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Lee Grant

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John Eales (66)
It was good to have the revised CS team this year because it gave some NSW and Qld lads a 2nd chance whilst not excluding the fellows who played in the Division II Championships in Geelong; in fact 2 of them made the team.

The controversy is over the mode of selection. For example the NSW shadow players were selected by the state selectors (and ditto probably for Qld) but CS selectors, no doubt headed by Ian Jones of Churchie, picked the CS team, and obviously independent of the opinions of the NSW and Qld selectors.

Scuttlebutt in this forum indicates that Jones knows the Qld players well enough and that he was in attendance at some of the NSW trials. You could see a scenario whereby he had some person or people (maybe including the CS manager, a Qlder) attending the Qld trials he couldn't attend and ditto for the NSW trials (maybe the NSW assistant coach of CS had that brief). He would have seen the final games of the Div II championships in Geelong and likely had a spy there for any games he couldn't attend.

I don't think that it's a bad thing that the CS selectors did not automatically use NSW and Qld shadow players for their team before others from those states, but 2010 was the transition year and everybody was entitled to know the procedure.

But in the future we can assume that the CS selectors will take their own counsel, and I am all for that independence.


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