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    Subbies 2023!

    Notice provided to all clubs yesterday that Petersham and St Pat’s are appealing their relegation at the AGM. What do we reckon their chances are? And if one or both are successful then what happens!?
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    Subbies 2023!

    I can see your logic but can you also understand St Pat's frustration though? Neither Mosman or Forest had a great year. St Pat's said they didn't have the best year in the statement but I think their issue is they haven't been told why they have been handpicked. Hard to say they haven't been...
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    Subbies 2023!

    A bit late to the party but I have just come across the fairly pointed statement on St Pat's socials. I have no doubt the statement would have caught the attention of the Subbies Board and NSW Rugby. Are there are any avenues for appeal? Is the appeals process more transparent than the current...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Interesting development, particularly for St Pat's who have been trying to capitalise on the ACU Strathfield campus for some time...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Hearing that Subbies are wasting little time getting their affairs in order for 2024 and want to have Divisions 1-3 sorted ASAP with 8 clubs respectively. Credit to them for getting on to it early but I'm very curious to see where everyone ends up and how it will be received!
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    Subbies 2023!

    Are these sorts of incidents prevalent in Subbies? There is no shortage of pissed idiots around the grounds on any given Saturday and that is only magnified come Grand Final day so it can be a powder keg. I know there was a blue at TG Milner a few years ago during a Kentwell GF involving...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I'd be lying if I said they're my favourite club but I do think they are a red hot chance Barbour & Burke.
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    Subbies 2023!

    Div 1 GF tips Sutherland Cup - Waverley v Mosman - my initial understanding was the Sutherland Cup wasn't to be contested in 2023 but that has clearly changed. Nothing quite like some running rugby on a Friday night! Toss of a coin lets go Waverley. Judd Cup - Mosman v Waverley - Mosman to...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Any concerns re: Hunters Hill's form line over the past few weeks? Round 13 concede 41 points to 7th place Petersham (granted HH scored 48 points). Round 14 go the distance in an arm-wrestle with wooden spooners St Pat's. First round of finals are competitive but pretty comprehensively beaten...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Seems as though Colleagues have an unassailable lead on the Div 1 Club Championship despite the bye this weekend. Not even a full bonus point clean sweep from Drummoyne would displace the Blue Giants. Forest and Petersham have a lot to play for and the final standings at the other end of the...
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    Subbies 2023!

    It has already been mentioned recently that a stint in Div 2 may be beneficial to the clubs struggling in Div 1. In recent times St Pat’s and Hunters Hill both returned better clubs after a few years in Div 2. As Heavy D suggested, neither of those clubs had it all their own way even when they...
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    Subbies 2023!

    An interesting situation looking to 2024. Say it is Petersham and Forest (or one of the the other relegation contenders St Pat's or Mosman) that join Div 2 in 2024 how will the other Div 2 clubs go? None of the four Div 1 clubs mentioned are "weak" but relative to the heavy hitters in Div 1...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I am reliably told the Joy Johnson final series format was decided in consultation with the 4 active clubs (Newport, Lindfield, St Pat's & UNSW) together with Subbies. Perhaps you could take up your grievances with the Newport rep who agreed to this venue, format and date? I take your point...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I think there will almost certainly be some frustrated clubs at the end of the season and they will be asking for the same treatment as Drummoyne. What's to say Petersham or Forest or St Pat's or Mosman haven't had an "off year" or meet the same extenuating circumstances as Drummoyne did at the...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Colleagues appear to have 1 hand on the Div 1 Club Championship with a big day of results v Mosman. More intriguing is the bottom end of the table. With ongoing uncertainty about Division structure and promotion/relegation in 2024, I think the bottom half of Division 1 will be doing all in...
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    Subbies 2023!

    Some interesting results in Div 1. Early season form suggests we had a semi-final preview - Blueys confirmed they're the real deal with a strong outing at Rawson Park. A one point loss will hurt but they are very close to the top. Hunters Hill have emerged as early favourites with a pretty...
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    Subbies 2023!

    I'm fairly sure most current Div 1 clubs (and a fair few Div 2) have Shute Shield experience littered throughout their squads and that's not a problem. Subbies address this in their operations manual - https://rugby.net.au/_uploads/res/132_16980.PDF Rule 4 outlines the process and Blue...
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    Subbies 2023!

    After 2 rounds Div 1 appears to be a lot closer than previous years. Mosman made light work of Petersham in 1s but a pretty even day throughout the grades. Mosman v Hunters Hill next weekend will be an interesting as two early contenders for the top gong. St Pat's and Forest had a fairly...
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    Subbies 2023!

    That's a shame, I thought Forest may have struck gold!
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    Subbies 2023!

    This appears to be a good idea on paper and promotes the seamless transition of players from Premier Rugby to Subbies Rugby. I'm unsure of the finer logistics of it all but the initial concerns that spring to mind: - are these Warringah 4s Radford Cup players eligible for selection in the...
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