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Oh FFS, The first thing they need to do is sort out Super rugby, whats the point of a so called Optus deal for a competition that is on its last legs. The SA's are having a laugh with pretty much Currie Cup teams. The whole things is a fucking joke, if your not sure of the recipe, don't then...

Its hard to see things improving if your signing up for another 4 years to something that is dead in the water, how much engagement can you expect from fans & sponsors to a structure that has a huge question mark over it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/118744325/springboks-star-schalk-brits-calls-for-south-african-rugby-to-join-europe-scene So the problem may be the RA sign up to another 4 year deal to a competition dead in the water.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/answers-to-dwindling-super-crowds-in-nz-may-offer-clues-for-australia-20200112-p53qqw.html The whole issue with Super rugby comes down to its reason for being, its slave relationship to Test rugby. Every inherent flaw in the competition highlighted...

The point most have been making has how bad has the scheduling been over a long period of time 10/15 years, this has had a slow but steady detrimental effect on support. Yet compare this to say how the AFL schedule there matches over the weekend, rugby ends up looking like rank amateurs. Yes we...

Thanks dru, then the SA's must be bloody worried this British League doesn't take off, and if European money is all that's keeping Super Rugby afloat, what does that say. Also the Cheetahs and Kings in Pro 14 aren't exactly successful sporting inclusions, I would have thought then that the...

Part of what i can't understand is the role of SA broadcasters, if the bulk of the broadcast money is provided by the Pay TV provider (Super Sport i think), what is the benefit they get from Super rugby that they couldn't get from investing that money into the Currie Cup or a reformed version of...

Yes, but the main advantage would be not having overnight games from SA, and is 9.30pm that bad a viewing time for Kiwi audiences, the reality is unless we go for purely domestic competitions then time-zones will always be an issue, you bring in Fiji or Japan, regardless will always be an issue.

I think for a Super rugby team the finances aren't great. But its hard to see a trans Tasman competition going ahead without at least one pacific team, it really does make a mockery of the whole growing the code argument. They have teams in the NRC and GRR based in the Pacific, the trick is...

Yes, but equally a catch 22, with a 14 team comp that means you've got just 7 home games guaranteed, take two to regional areas that means for example NSW will only have 5 home games, no wonder Roger Davies the NSW Chairman said the new structure is unsustainable, let alone trying to compete...

One think Smith mentioned in the Australian article that is pretty relevant, SA have dropped restrictions for selecting players for the Springboks, so those SA Super sides over the next five years aren't exactly going to be Super, not exactly ideal for attracting fans to games to the Australian...

Exactly or as you say it remains a turd. When i posted the link the article opened, however it is very much speculative, stating letting SA go but doesn't say where, talk is this will happen in 2026, they are beginning discussions, with the current NZ/AUS teams possibly Western Force and an...

The issue I have with the article is it is pretty much just speculation, I don't mind Smith but really I could've written that, and the part about air travel, not sure what to make of that, and i wonder just how keen Japan will be when there presence is more due to revenue than want. I agree...

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/south-africa-may-leave-super-rugby/news-story/83f5ea5c00e7c20f2153e8d099a7f93c Brilliant, So we have dead man walking for the next five years.

Wasn't there some talk earlier on of a team based in the Hunter Region

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/the-revolution-has-started-as-grassroots-rugby-shuns-the-establishment-20191212-p53jh3.html A bit all over the place, but the sentiment is there.

The problem rugby faces is it doesn't want private money, it just wants someone to pay the bills. As you say people like owning sporting teams and rich people will happily invest large sums, but they at least want some sort of ownership, a level of ego is involved here. With Super rugby you...

Much of the viability issue comes back to Super Rugby essentially being a purpose built training camp for each countries National teams. The inherent structural restraints and compromises this brings renders any replacement not viable, unless those underlying issues are addressed. The catch 22 for...

A With the Brumbies, get them to show the financials to show they have the support, and then they come back with give us a competition that allows us to provide those financials. But all good points maybe what you have will work. My point ultimately is do something, tell us, this is where...