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Exactly, it is the failure to address Super rugby that is the issue. This is primarily what Fox pay for. Tests are still FTA, but the Bread & Butter is Super rugby, but it went off a long time ago, the reality is if the game goes to Optus it will actually quantify the rugby audience. That may...

Unfortunately behind a pay wall, but in fairness to the RA they are still negotiating. An Optus deal may very well increase the money available, its not the RA fault if Fox are having second thoughts (lets not go into the state of the game). But even a rise in broadcast money is a huge risk...

I could be wrong I was under the impression they had signed off on a broadcast deal.

All sorts of speculation regards the NRC, reality is the competition just hasn't taken off, the reasons we can debate. But what do they replace it with and it has to have genuine support to move forward. But I'm curious regards the new broadcast deal, how can we negotiate when the Kiwi's &...

I think in a nutshell you've highlighted the major issue facing the code here, money & control, and probably the reason why the game has stagnated so much over the last 10/15 years, the RA want the money but still retain control. Problem is you simply can't have it both ways, look at Super...

Doesn't it somewhat defeat the purpose of the rebels, if growth in schoolboys and clubs are dwindling.

OH, So now SANZAAR need Japan do they, if I was Japan I would tell them to take a flying leap.

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/09/10/superrugby-2020-draw Its official Super rugby is now a summer sport

Well maybe I'm wrong, but I read that as all options are on the table. The last couple of paragraphs were telling, this was more about what happened than GRR future. I just get the feeling that everything is up in the air. I just don't think anything is locked away right now, Super/GRR the whole...

Have you heard or are you just speculating, its not rocket science to think that after the world cup then everything changes, and part of the current silence maybe due to this. In many ways GRR needs Japanese involvement, hard to promote an Asian based rugby comp without the top Asian country...

Following up, I wonder if GRR are sniffing around this. https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/03/0ed081d72381-focus-rugby-sunwolves-demise-may-lead-to-new-dawn-for-japanese-rugby.html

I think the game here has given up, check this article in the SMH on Saturday, i just shook my head after it and realized that the game here is going nowhere in a hurry. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/rugby-s-new-overlord-perfect-choice-to-guide-niche-australian-code-20190720-p5291w.html

A great podcast to listen to Ali Williams is a funny bloke, kiwi perspective but great insight https://player.fm/series/the-short-ball/season-4-episode-21-was-the-super-rugby-final-boring-and-we-say-farewell-to-the-podfather But they highlight just a couple of the issues regards Super rugby.

But they will ultimately be competing for some of the same eyeballs, that's a lovely little mission statement about fostering growth and all that but with private owners they will want some bang for there bucks, they may have nothing in common but at the end of the day they will be competitors...

I am curious to see how this plays out over the next couple of years. It has always been the structural issues that have affected Super rugby, the inability of the competition or operators to adjust to market place demands has essentially been its downfall. if the competitions run side by side...

It is a good point, but again highlights how the set up suits NZ more than Australia, our domestic season has effectively ended by the beginning of July. Yet the whole of the Australian sporting landscape is just gearing up for August/September footy, and rugby is missing in action, yes the...

What about a combination of our current Super and GRR teams, you should be able to come up with an 8/10 team competition. With games in our timezone, local derbies (I would push for a 2nd team in NSW), with games Fri/Sat/Sun each week, also a genuine winter calendar, not some comp that...

Exactly, it doesn't happen in rugby because of to many vested interests or more appropriately self interest. You may not agree with all his views, but Brett Papworth summed it up nicely in describing the set up of Rugby in Australia. "about 150 people are doing very nicely out of the game in...

Yes but what suits there market, surely concentrating on promoting the Currie Cup in the long term would bring greater benefits especially if they are so broke, why are they subsidizing the AUS & NZ markets. 14 Currie Cup teams with say 35 professional players that's 490 professional players...

I've always been curious regards why SA has not put more resources into the Currie Cup, concentrating on there own domestic market to grow the game with 12/14 provinces. Essentially if they are bringing in the greatest percentage of revenue, which by shear definition means they are providing...