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  1. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I'm curious regards Castles pretty steadfast assertion that Super rugby will continue post 2021, yet freely admitting that the broadcast $'s will not be there. And just as curious with less money, now all of a sudden fta and different viewing platforms are all up for grabs, and why is this...
  2. hoggy

    2019 TV ratings and crowd numbers

    Rugby can start to build a following like the two other football codes, but it will never do it with Super rugby and the structural issues that the primacy of Test rugby puts on your domestic calendar.
  3. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    " What to me has been obvious since 1999, in having a US media company dictate who can play and how to run a competition, hiding away on a subscription network, with no national domestic footprint was never ever going to work." half said. Exactly it has been the sheer doggedness to not accept...
  4. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I just wonder whether the RA will have an option, the fact is will the money be there for any of the current Super teams, I was thinking they cobble together a Super 8 version, say 4 NZ 2 SA 2 Aus.(if SA go for that). This would allow each country to run a genuine domestic competition under...
  5. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    You could push that agenda further and reduce Australia to two teams NSW & QLD, look at a say Super 8, this would then give you the ability to run a domestic competition below this level.
  6. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/nations-championship-failure-won-t-harm-australian-game-castle-20190620-p51zpu.html We looking at all options on the table in the hope of finding one.
  7. hoggy

    Global Rapid Rugby

    Well it looks like no league of nations, all of a sudden GRR doesn't look so Mickey Mouse.
  8. hoggy

    Proposed Nations Championship

    I agree the relationship between RA and Foxtel is critical, but they have just announced a 416$million loss, that in itself is going to change the relationship.
  9. hoggy

    Proposed Nations Championship

    Yes that sounds logical, but I'm curious what discussions then RA are having with Foxtel. Because if that structure is right, then Super rugby becomes its own product in 2021. Because the Rights owner now owns the rights to the rugby championship in August, so i can't see how the RA can bundle...
  10. hoggy

    Proposed Nations Championship

    That could be the trick, if they are getting all the other Test matches as part of the package, but would they be paying that to the RA, is it there content to sell, and as you say exactly who is the customer anymore.
  11. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Or you change recipes.
  12. hoggy

    Proposed Nations Championship

    Streaming or pay TV, but ultimately isn't the business model the same. If the RA can on sell those rights then they are paying the Wallabies for participation only, which appears a bloody good deal (or to good to be true).
  13. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Yes but you can equally argue that the Franchise model given to these clubs is not sustainable, as the clubs have pointed out not enough people are buying our Pizzas, so at what point of shrinkage do you no longer have a franchise model.
  14. hoggy

    Proposed Nations Championship

    Sounds a bloody good deal theoretically, But if they are on an anti-siphoning deal then what interest would Foxtel then have in them.
  15. hoggy

    Proposed Nations Championship

    Looking for an explanation. The RA have pretty much put all there eggs in this basket, but do we know the status of broadcasting under this agreement. Presumably an investment company is buying the rights to Test Rugby and the World league that comes with it, it will then on sell those rights to...
  16. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I think that is a pretty good point, I know WA have had a reduction in playing numbers since the Force were removed, but retaining the Rebels at what cost and more importantly what reason especially if the increase in support in Victoria is minimal. Those teams were costing millions with...
  17. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    In defense of inner Sydney, its not like these outer limbs were exactly thriving. As you point out all of a sudden its survival mode. I'm about to have a heart-attack what do I do, It all comes down to to many cream cakes 10/20 years ago. The only constant about the whole thing is what exactly...
  18. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    More an ex fan these days since moving to Queensland, but I agree with some of your thoughts, was a foundation member down there, but I can't believe all the money that has been wasted on the rebels participation, especially when playing club footy down there it was sausage sizzle stuff, most...
  19. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    " It would be sad to see the Brumbies go and a waste to lose a growth market like Melbourne. If Australia follows the New Zealand franchise model, it can have both as well as three highly competitive and marketable Super Rugby teams that will provide the platform for Australian rugby to prosper...
  20. hoggy

    Global Rapid Rugby

    Whats pretty funny is that it would probably be in the best interest for Australian rugby long term, and fuck what NZRU and SARU's reaction is.
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