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Yes, but that's a two way argument, is playing 15/16 Tests a year, good player welfare management, and that wee peek is where all the growth is happening at. How long can the RA stand there with the finger in the dyke. You want one controlling body, well then you have to pay all the bills...

The point is that under the current Super Rugby and Test model that we are connected to in Australia, you are not going to be able to garner any real level of private investment. The problem lies in the level of control the national bodies have. Yes they need to control Test rugby, but it is...

Because as accommodating as Castle may want to be, sooner or later discussions end up meeting a rock. Yes we want your money, but here's a list of the strings attached.

Sorry, my reply was a bit tongue in cheek, I completely agree with your analysis of the A-League model, and a prime reason of why rugby here especially is declining, without attracting that private investment, the game is struggling to compete, its financial options are to limited. Even if you...

What does it say about our current business model, aren't we pretty beholden to SA broadcast money already.

The New Zealanders want what they have got for the last 20 years a competition perfectly suited to there rugby set-up. We've been involved with NZ rugby for 20 yrs and where are we. It is this beggars attitude that holds the game back here in my opinion. So is the solution to take the least...

The game can't survive in Australia forever expecting someone else to pay for it. Pick a new comp but who pays for it ignores the reality the game here is living on a credit card. The biggest market that will ever be available to Australian rugby is Australia. But at some stage we have to face...

Your right rugby is simply not popular enough in this country, but that is not the reason why we are here in the first place, we are here because we've spent the last 20 years banging a square peg in a round hole and continuing to do so is not going to make any difference for the foreseeable...

They can't come up with a solution because that requires a square peg in a round hole, no matter what you try it doesn't fit, so all you can do is bash it in, which is why we are here in the first place.

I don't think they actually could, but the whole thing has been built on such a flimsy house of cards that if Twiggy does pull of some sort half decent comp next year, it would seriously look like a hungry fox let loose in a locked hen house.

An issue with Super rugby has been that the competition itself has not grown in value, often those extra broadcast $ have come from simply adding more & more content, Super 12 may have been able to work around the structural issues, but at the time it was all Expand or Die. Without competing...

But what part of that is going to bring in new fans, moving the deckchairs achieves what?

An expanded NRC is the best move, but you can see why Forest is reluctant, I'm not sure that he's aspiring for something bigger, but again the RA want everything their way. they get there Super rugby, a Wallaby Test season and Twiggy pays for the NRC. And this is why we will never get private...

A pretty depressing article in the Australian this morning by Wayne Smith. SANZAAR are meeting in Singapore, but all indications are that not much is going to change. NZ are pushing for an end to conferences and the Sunwolves future is a bit up in the air, but the SA's apparently are staying...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12081466 It looks like the Kiwis don't want conferences anymore

And I think this is the catch 22 we face, should test rugby be central to the rugby calendar. Where has that got rugby here in 2018. It is the pinnacle of the game but we are trying to turn it into a weekly comp, there is a reason gold is valuable. To me this new structure is doing as much as...

So now it is our biggest test series, does this include one of games against Fiji or Scotland. You are missing my point. You are pretty much devoting 6 months of the season to a structure that has limited domestic penetration. Yes perfect for the NZ with the All Blacks and SA looking North...

In Australia, going to the market place with Test rugby from July on-wards you are then expecting the NRC to compete against the NRL and AFL, this may work in SA and NZ but here ? and what happens when the Wallabies are struggling with that ever important win %. This may be a better format...

The other interesting scenario is it does not address the Western Force, but if the Sunwolves exit it potentially frees up possible Japanese inclusion into that comp. And the other issue is from an Australian prospective, you are solely relying on Test rugby from July to present to the market...

You have to wonder which model will give you growth, how many applications would rugby get right now