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  1. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Then it is equally wrong as the assumption that a domestic competition will immediately send us back to the 1980's.
  2. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    There are no guarantees of instant success or filling stadiums, but this is the structure that underlines 99% of successful sporting competitions in the world. We have had a specific Wallaby-centric designed competition for 20 years now competing against the best teams in the world that has...
  3. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Me too, I have no interest in playing second fiddle to prop up NZ rugby or playing in a comp where your partner has your interests a long way down the list, but with very limited budgets we could surely cobble together a 6 team domestic comp for next year, start with one new team, look at 8/10...
  4. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Previously they've wanted the bills paid but never wanted to cede control. But when you start having private investment, those investors rightly want a say in how that money is spent and in Super rugby they ran smack into a brick wall. The issue moving forward for the RA is a TT in...
  5. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Isn't that Super rugby
  6. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    But I fail to see how being a subservient partner in a Trans Tasman competition which will ultimately be for the benefit of NZ's professional rugby set-up and All Black support wagon will long term help improve the Wallaby playing calibre, because as the game slowly heads into obscurity here...
  7. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Well its hard to see how shrinking the codes presence in Australia to a niche sport is going to answer questions A & B
  8. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Isn't part of that interest kiwi expats, something like 500,000. Weren't the Blues the second most supported franchise in Aus.
  9. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    The problem is, the 8 team model would be quite suitable to many in Australian rugby. But as others have said is it in the best interests of the game here long term, i for one don't think it is. And yes agree with you we should negotiate, IMO we should go it alone so the game can learn to...
  10. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/it-s-me-first-australia-warned-over-trans-tasman-plans-20200612-p55235.html A warning for all those advocating an 8 team TT comp, this suits NZ with Australia a long way back in 2nd place.
  11. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Catch 22 though, can they survive long term with only 5 teams how do you grow support, how much support has the Waratahs lost over the years having only 6/8 games a year in your home town, people just slowly drift of to other codes. And will whatever corporate support is left just slowly drift...
  12. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    It will be very interesting to see the ratings over the next few months regards both comps in NZ & Aus and also presuming whatever replacement SA come up with for the next few months (if we get to view it). Fox may be in a wait & see mood, strong viewing numbers may assist in a possible deal...
  13. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    That is the balancing act though, essentially that's what Super rugby was all about, but the structural limitations that came with that was a massive part of what got the game to the current spot. Moving forward a sustainable 2nd tier is probably the most important thing to get sorted especially...
  14. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I know what your saying, but it clearly has lost interest in many peoples eye's, no doubt being un-competitive is a huge issue, but I would argue there has never been the level of interest to sustain playing say Argentina twice a year., the minute you monetize something you create a whole new...
  15. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I'm not sure how player welfare is enhanced with 3/4 week tours, but this could help with interest. A big problem in my opinion is playing to many tests against the same opposition on a yearly basis, the RC format becomes stale very quickly (not helped by kiwi dominance) We play the All Blacks...
  16. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Its hard to figure Fox Sports motivation here, Geez the Blues v Hurricanes on Sunday is just a must, f--k a dry track and first comp to have a crowd, there talking a sellout that may be a game to remember. Are Sky sports asking to much to show the game, Fox not interested? are Sky Sports (long...
  17. hoggy

    Australian Rugby / RA

    A fantastic post that should be read.
  18. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Yes C grade, yet Super rugby spent 15 years telling everyone about the rivers of gold in Asia. Twiggy may very well be part of the future moving forward funding wise, but to presume he should happily fund the future Super B competition so everyone can happily go along there merry way, well if i...
  19. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    Super rugby was supposed to take over the world in early 2000's, with American & Asian conferences and money growing on trees, yet here we are in 2020. So what happened, rugby is a great game so I would argue the most important thing moving forward is understanding why we are here so as to...
  20. hoggy

    Where to for Super Rugby?

    I very much doubt that twiggy would be interested in funding a Reserve grade competition
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