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I think the Force shouldn’t have been cut and have the players they developed stay with them so they don’t need to seek new players. But that didn’t happen.

Yes!!!

I’ve been at pains to try and explain the developed locally point. It does not mean they came through the WA system, it means they came to Perth not as a raw 20 year old (whether developed in Sydney, Qld, Vic, or Perth is irrelevant) and developed from that to either Wallaby’s or at least in the...

I also see your point on rebuilding, but the last time Perth had a reasonable team to get behind was 2017. I’m not sure the Force being the whipping boys for six years and counting is doing anything to grow the game in Perth. That isn’t rebuilding that is consistency. On the u18s and schoolboys...

I’m not suggesting these players were bred through WA, but rather they came to the Force with potential but as raw super players, and that potential was realised at the Force. Philip for instance joined the Force at 22. He wasn’t in Wallaby contention then but was a prospect. By getting him at...

You missed the point on the players mentioned. They came to the Force as unproven players. Be that from Sydney, Perth, Brisbane, whatever. At the Force they developed to the point where they were in Wallaby contention. Coleman, Philip, Hardwick, DHP, Naisarani, McCalman and Rona are all capped...

The quality has lifted substantially. They are now producing guys regularly who are super rugby quality. That wasn’t happening 10 years ago. booting the Force though did mean a number of the top tier lads who lifted the quality, who were looking to break into a pro spot (think guys like Rangi)...

Why is it long in the tooth? In 2017, the Force had built a strong team with a good third locals, and a number of players having started with the Force, local and interstate alike, that had been built to challenging for Wallaby spots - think Philips, Coleman, DHP, RHP, Hardwick, Rangi, Louwrens...

Sorry my point was that given the wind, the Force were always going to come back in the second half. Had a few bounces of the ball gone another way, and a few dumb decisions not been made (shoulda woulda I know) then Force could have reeled the Canes in. But they didn’t and as you say Canes were...

But they nearly did lose, force were always going to come back in the second half. But if you were talking about the play past the siren then fair enough, both sides threw caution to the wind as there was nothing to lose and everything to gain. Canes and Force both had a chance at a bonus point...

We have the Highlanders again in a few weeks, in Perth.

To be fair, it was a hell of a breeze they were playing into.

And had the game gone for another two minutes, with the Force having all the play, it’s the Forces win. Don’t sully a good performance by the Force, who played well, by talking down the other team. Ref was awful but it was his breakdown management that was awful, going both ways.

But there are a few Wallaby quality players developed through the WA system currently playing overseas - think Curtis Rona or Oli Hoskins. Then there are guys like Luke Burton and Zach Holmes who we would love to have back in Oz given the depth issues at 10 in Aus rugby. And I’m not convinced...

This is it and it grinds my gears when people criticise the Force at the moment. In 2017 a third of the squad were WA products and on top of that guys like Philip, Coleman and McCalman amongst others were developed from raw recruits to top line Wallaby’s. When kicked out they all left not to...

Fines is the man!

I see there are a few issues for Los Angeles and Austin in MLR, with players being told they might not have a season (owners going bankrupt, not due to the rugby team). Gus Cottrell, Luke Burton and Billy Meakes are all at LA....

Where are McDonald and Stander going?

When the Force were cut from Super rugby, and DHP, RHP, Rona, Hardwick, Peni, Naisaranu, Philip, Coleman, Cottrell, Ruru, Rangi, etc left the Force instead of taking a pay cut and playin GRR, during a time of great need of the club, people understood the reasons and didn’t toss their toys out of...

I’m not saying it was a Reds issue. He wasn’t happy with his salary being cut by 60%. There might have been captaincy issues too (I don’t agree that makes him a goose. If I am passed over for a promotion I might reconsider my tenure at that organisation too) and maybe other reasons none of us...