Will the Reds make the Final?

[Schadenfreude]

I can't look at any team above them any say "they don't deserve it"

 

[Athilnaur]

I can't look at any team above them any say "they don't deserve it"

I have my reservations about the Bulls this year, they have looked brittle and I would rate Sharks, Canes and Reds ahead of them for current form. Not sure the Lions have enough in the tank to beat them though.

 

[Brisbok]

I have my reservations about the Bulls this year, they have looked brittle and I would rate Sharks, Canes and Reds ahead of them for current form. Not sure the Lions have enough in the tank to beat them though.

Fair enough point, their form has not been the best in the last 3 or 4 rounds. But to say that they don't deserve it would be a bit of a stretch. The position on the table at the end of the season is a more accurate judgement of whether a team "deserves" to be in the finals than their form over the last 5 or 6 rounds of the competition. The more consistent teams over the entire length of the season are rewarded with a place in the finals rather than teams who have been excellent in patches and really poor in others.

 

[Athilnaur]

Oh I agree they deserve it BB, just an observation on their form of recent games.

 

[Brisbok]

Oh I agree they deserve it BB, just an observation on their form of recent games.

Yep, certainly not promising. If they do make the finals and carry on with this form they will probably get knocked out in their first game.

 

[Schadenfreude]

The definitive work:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...be-enough-for-reds-20120709-21rih.html#Finals scenarios

The Queensland Reds are seventh going into the final round of Super Rugby - one spot outside of the finals. Here’s what needs to unfold over the weekend for them to progress.​

Ladder with one game to play​

1. Chiefs (New Zealand conference leader) 63
2. Stormers (South African conference leader) 62
3. Brumbies (Australian conference leader) 58
4. Crusaders (Wildcard) 56
5. Bulls (Wildcard) 54
6. Sharks (Wildcard) 54
7. Reds 53
8. Hurricanes 53

Reds playoff scenario number one​

Victory over the Waratahs would put the Reds on 57 competition points and they would qualify for the finals if any of these results fall Queensland’s way:​

• Sharks (54) lose to Cheetahs by any amount
• Bulls (54) lose to Lions by any amount
• Crusaders (56) lose to Force by any amount If the Hurricanes (53) record a bonus-point victory over the Chiefs, the Reds would require two of the above scenarios to occur in order to qualify for the finals.

Reds playoff scenario number two​

Victory over the Waratahs with a bonus-point would put the Reds on 58 competition points and they would qualify for the finals if any of these results fall Queensland’s way:​

• Sharks (54) fail to record a maximum point haul (victory + four-try bonus point) over Cheetahs
• Bulls (54) fail to record a maximum point haul (victory + four-try bonus point) over Lions
• Crusaders (56) lose to Force by any amount or draw
• Brumbies (58) lose to Blues without a bonus-point (Reds, with one extra win, would take out the Australian Conference and host a qualifying final)

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Read more:​

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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rugby-union/reds/perfect-game-may-not-be-enough-for-reds-20120709-21rih.html#ixzz20AAg9WOy​

 

[No4918]

Another good Wayne Smith article. This time on the points system and finals.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-isnt-everything/story-e6frg7v6-1226420521176

Edit: member only content so did not want to post the article itself. If someone can confirm that the article can be posted without getting in trouble let me know.

 

[Ignoto]

The definitive work:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...be-enough-for-reds-20120709-21rih.html#Finals scenarios

Bloody hell, reminds me of:

 

[BPC]

 

[Bardon]

Canes are going really well against the Chiefs looking like they were going for a bonus point win. But they've just got a yellow card for a tip tackle on SBW and the commentary team are going crazy about it.Could have a huge impact on the Canes chances and subsequently the Reds.

Game has been really entertaining so far. Personally I think the yellow was right, it was a tip tackle and the fact SBW put his elbow down to protect himself made it look less severe. Certainly wasn't a red and can see how some people would argue against a yellow on that one.

 

[flat_eric]

Chiefs continue to shit on the Reds finals aspirations. Canes looking like they might pick up a bonus point win against them.

 

[Bardon]

Chiefs squared the game up during the yellow card. Canes scored a penalty with the last kick of the half to go in 18-15, 2 tries for each team so far.

 

[AngrySeahorse]

Got to say I'm one of those Bardon that does not think it was a yellow or even a white. I've seen plenty worse than that playing women's club rugby on a weekend that doesn't get penalised. I agree with the commentators.

Still a while for the game to go eric. I'm loving the way the Canes are playing. 30min in & not a single scrum is a good indication its been running, & more running. Don't count out a Chiefs come back though!

 

[kiap]

Chiefs continue to shit on the Reds finals aspirations. Canes looking like they might pick up a bonus point win against them.

Chiefs don't wanna risk being overtaken by the Stormers (unlikely though it may be).

If the Canes win it wll be from their own game.

 

[flat_eric]

Chiefs don't wanna risk being overtaken by the Stormers (unlikely though it may be).

If the Canes win it wll be from their own game.

I realise the Chiefs are playing to win. Otherwise they would probably have rested a host of players.

It's a cracker of a match by the way.

 

[qwerty51]

Chiefs don't wanna risk being overtaken by the Stormers (unlikely though it may be).

If the Canes win it wll be from their own game.

Unlikely? The Chiefs still need 2 more tries, Stormers should get the bp.

Make that 1 as they score an intercept try.

 

[Bardon]

Fair play to both teams playing such quality rugby with so much riding on the game. Top notch.

 

[qwerty51]

Fair play to both teams playing such quality rugby with so much riding on the game. Top notch.

Indeed, wish the Aus sides had the same mentality

 

[kiap]

Unlikely? The Chiefs still need 2 more tries, Stormers should get the bp.

Make that 1 as they score an intercept try.

I say unlikely. When have the Stormers scored 4 tries?

 

[qwerty51]

But it's the Rebels, when have they not conceded 4