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Andrew Slack (58)
Long time since the Brumbies have been "succesful"
It's not the basis of the argument in my opinion.
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Long time since the Brumbies have been "succesful"
It's not the basis of the argument in my opinion.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
They've made the finals every year for the past 4 years.........
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Mark Ella (57)
When the dirty deals are the sort referred to police and ASIC and have various financial settlements with the usual non disclosure clauses plus court suppression orders of accountancy investigations reports you real really don't want anything coming out and the ARU chosen one Thompson is now in charge is he not? And an ex-copper to boot IIRR.
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Where there has been a guaranteed Australian team & two of the teams have been trash whether through poor management or uneven top up distribution.
Finals is great but ask any AB's fan after 2011 and they will tell you winning is the only thing that REALLY matters. (now they have the monkey off their back)
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David Wilson (68)
Indeed. The idea that some here are trying to advance that the NZRU have some sort of altruistic streak to assist other nations is a fiction of titanic proportions.
The NZRU are in it for NZ rugby, nothing more and nothing less (as one would expect). But let's not try to pretend that they have some desire to help Australia, Japan, Tonga, Samoa, Fiji et al.
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Mark Ella (57)
Being the froth floating in the sewage treatment plant is such a good thing to aspire to.
You're joking aren't you? He's the captain of the Japanese national team - well he was at the last RWC.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
i am trying to tell you that these are not "unenforceable promises" - http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/promissory_estoppel.asp.
You should not assume that the ARU is free to turn their attention to the brumbies as a means of avoiding litigation: they are not.
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David Wilson (68)
Well, if they've made promises to the NSWRU and the QRU (behind closed doors as is their ususal MO), then they've managed to put themselves into a position where they are guaranteed to lose - a familiar position for the ARU.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
half.
Why are the kiwis so keen that we should lose a side but the Sunwolves survive? Because with Japan as an ally the tiny NZ market no longer needs Oz for the television $$$
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Mark Ella (57)
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
I always think of Day of the Triffids when that quote brought out. I wonder who we can characterise as a deadly parasitic plant with a hive type intelligence?
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Except that the Brumbies (and Tahs) were deserved finalists on points in all of those years except for 2016, and both of them were in the top 4 two of those years (plus Brumbies runners up, and Tahs champions in 2013/2014 respectively)........
The Kiwi teams are irrelevant to this discussion, unless they're also facing the axe?
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Mark Ella (57)
Its not beyond the realms of possibility from my understanding of String Theory, but it is a very long bow.
I think more likely they look at the basket case ARU and remember being screwed over instead of assisted to meet the clean stadia requirements for the 2003 RWC and just sit back now and say well well well, what goes around.....
Unfortunate and maybe a bit short sighted, but then again maybe not, because Australian Rugby is professionally screwed in terms of real development pathways and unlikely to be a significant adversary of quality except in a 1 in 10 games scenario.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
The clean grounds issue was of their own making and was sandbagging, their bluff was called.
Be that as it may I don't think we should assume NZ are in this for anyone but themselves. It's hard to see why they would help us now that the game is so global.
How much longer is the ARU going to string this out? McCardle and co suggested the lack of contract offers for non-wallabies might be a distraction which explains the super season to date.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
I feel like this Tom Waits song is more relevant to this thread.........,
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Ok, I will put this in plain English for you. Who gives a toss if you get into the finals, you didn't win the bloody thing.You don't see ticker tape parades for getting knocked out in the Quarter Finals.
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Mark Ella (57)
Yes the clean grounds issue was of their own making, just like the ARU failures over the last 15 years is theirs/ours. JON MK1 could have been less grasping and pulled the then NZRU aside and said look, this is the IRB rules, the stadia have to be clean we have been given a go it alone option but we don't want to do it....... No what was done was take the opportunity to get the dollars for the ARU so they could "piss it up the wall" (Copyright Bill Pulver 2016).
The "distraction" excuse is the best sugar coating the Fox team can come up with given the total lack of anything nearing quality from the Australian sides since blaming dew every week the whole season makes one look like a dick (please take note Tim Horan and George Gregan)
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