Where to for Super Rugby?

[Dismal Pillock]

999 pages?

 

[zer0]

A few more shitposts and we'll see if we hit GAGR's own Y2K. I hypothesise that trying to fit four digits onto the page button will cause the backend of the GAGR network to explode like old man Gunston after a rip roaring korma from the Royal Oak mall Indian.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

999 pages?

So as we hit 1000 pages I assume we got the answer to "Where to for Super Rugby"? So to sum up probably where we got to on this:

• Need to follow example set by Soccer - A-League - see 10 pages from Half
• Don't put us in a competition with South Africa - ok at least that is accepted / end result - see 50 pages on this
• Do our own domestic competition and go it alone - 50 pages - see also pages from Half
• Do something with Twiggy and rest of Asia but not with those evil fuckers from NZRU- 50 Pages
• Do something with NZRU ie. TT - 50 pages
• Repeat the above messages over and over so you bastards get it and agree with my view/proposal - 790 Pages

 

[Dan54]

But they don’t break even, 2018 they lost $1.9 million, 2019 they lost 7.4 million obviously that’s pre covid. It’s a misconception that not posting a profit means they are breaking even

Yep but they lost money not with ABs, but with grassroots, super etc. Not from AB rugby, that's what pays the bills !

 

[Braveheart81]

But they don’t break even, 2018 they lost $1.9 million, 2019 they lost 7.4 million obviously that’s pre covid. It’s a misconception that not posting a profit means they are breaking even

It's cyclical. World Cup year is the worst for any Tier 1 team.

Looking at it across a four year cycle is relevant.

In 2018 NZRU might have had a bottom line loss of $1.9m but above that they distributed $32m to their sub unions (Mitre 10 Cup and Heartland level). With current assets of $167m they aren't too concerned about reducing this investment and funding for lower levels just under the guise of breaking even or making a small profit.

 

[Rebel man]

Yep but they lost money not with ABs, but with grassroots, super etc. Not from AB rugby, that's what pays the bills !

But that has flow on effects. You lose 7.5m and that’s 7.5m less on development. If you keep losing money you have to keep cutting back and you end up undermining the foundations of the All Blacks and that is strong club rugby with good talent pathways

 

[Dan54]

But that has flow on effects. You lose 7.5m and that’s 7.5m less on development. If you keep losing money you have to keep cutting back and you end up undermining the foundations of the All Blacks and that is strong club rugby with good talent pathways

Too true mate, so I suppose you get someone like Silver Lakes to help create more money. I was reading that almost every sport knows they will never make more money in future from ticket sales .

 

[Braveheart81]

But that has flow on effects. You lose 7.5m and that’s 7.5m less on development. If you keep losing money you have to keep cutting back and you end up undermining the foundations of the All Blacks and that is strong club rugby with good talent pathways

But they know they're going to lose that money in a RWC year and they budget for it across the four year cycle.

They don't just strip out $7.5m of funding so they can break even that year. They lost $7.5m because they maintained the funding.

 

[half]

So as we hit 1000 pages I assume we got the answer to "Where to for Super Rugby"? So to sum up probably where we got to on this:

• Need to follow example set by Soccer - A-League - see 10 pages from Half

Almost right, the pages maybe more than 10 but no argument.

No not the A-League, but based on the US franchise system of which the best is the MSL and the system largely copied by MRL. Of which the closest code in Australia to the MLS that rugby in Australia can compare to is the A-League.

Its always been about the system, always and still is private equity owning the teams, and those teams running the competition, in a local domestic competition, to a system established and run by the governing body.

Its been my argument for close to 20 years.

 

[Derpus]

Here it fucking comes

 

[Rebels3]

Let’s celebrate the milestone with a top 5 craziest and most irrational people that have contributed

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[Derpus]

1.Dismal
2.Dismal
3.Dismal
4.Dismal
5.Ha....Dismal

 

[half]

Should it be a free for all or allocated and if allocated who do we allocate and how do we decide.

I am talking about post No 20, 000.

I suggest Quick be given or allocated to prepare post No 20, 000 given he started the thread.

Or should it not matter and a free for all to be poster 20, 000.

 

[zer0]

It's a full on free for all cage fight for 1k pages and 20k shitposts as far as I'm concerned.

Also, six posts to go.

 

[RugbyReg]

I'm just going to lock this thread........

 

[Tomikin]

count me in 1

 

[Tomikin]

2

 

[Teh Other Dave]

1.Dismal
2.Dismal
3.Dismal
4.Dismal
5.Ha..Dismal

Hah! Pillock is the voice of reason in this thread.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

With the glory of opening Page 1,000Y2K should come the great responsibility of..... actually answering the goddamn question of "Where To For Super Rugby?"

Yes, the final definitive answer, the one true answer that all members must get behind and abide by.

"As Foretold by The Prophecy, and after 1,000 pages of deliberation, The Question was definitively answered by <insert legendary member's name here> for it was he who stepped up and, having sifted through the 1,000 years of arguments, bestowed upon The Forii Generalis The Final Verdict".

 

[Penguin]

With the glory of opening Page 1,000Y2K should come the great responsibility of... actually answering the goddamn question of "Where To For Super Rugby?"

Yes, the final definitive answer, the one true answer that all members must get behind and abide by.

"As Foretold by The Prophecy, and after 1,000 pages of deliberation, The Question was definitively answered by <insert legendary member's name here> for it was he who stepped up and, having sifted through the 1,000 years of arguments, bestowed upon The Forii Generalis The Final Verdict".

It's 42 innit?