Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
That makes sense - got to provide some pathways for Asia for them to develop. But yes not part of super rugby please.
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That makes sense - got to provide some pathways for Asia for them to develop. But yes not part of super rugby please.
eastman
Colin Windon (37)
This is fundamentally wrong- we had a competition in 3 plus countries in very different time zones (this is important). The most common issue that fans had with the old Super Rugby is that teams would disappear to South Africa for weeks at a time and be virtually inaccessible.
Super Rugby Trans-Tasman is 100% accessible at all times with high profile All Blacks - they are very different competitions.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
TT Checklist:
Time zone friendly - check
Country Team Participation Interest - check
Oz teams competitive with to keep local interest esp - Fail (come back next year with measures to improve e.g. imports?)
eastman
Colin Windon (37)
Exactly right - let's make slightly alter the focus on the quality of the competition rather than on developing international players.
dru
Tim Horan (67)
Add that for the domestic we really would want to increase teams, ie a quality drop per team. I'm increasingly curious about a hierarchy with two teams each in NSW and Qld, then condense for TT with Qld, NSW and the rest. Possibly utilising the WB coaching or at least a closer connection to it.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
There you go Dan proof RA open to open borders straight from our ceos mouth but also saying understands nz compatriots less keen
https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/...r/news-story/7e5346eb3bc11c773f7a90da8a3a6a69
https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/...r/news-story/7e5346eb3bc11c773f7a90da8a3a6a69
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Alan Cameron (40)
Before I start
Super Rugby out rates the A-League, Super Rugby crowds are better than the A-League, the A-League has been going down faster than a Kings Cross whore. All this makes the SMH article all the more galling.
The kind would say, my predication is proving to be correct.
The less kind would say, were did we go wrong,
The unkind would say, I Told You So,
The cruel would say, well WTF do you have to say now after years of putting !!!**** on ideas expressed.
The A-League alone, not including national teams just signed according to the SMH, a 200 million deal of which 160 cash and 40 million contras, with two A-League matches on 10 and one W-League match on 10. Plus a weekly channel 10 panel show.
NATIONAL DOMESTIC COMPETITIONS JUST F>>>>>>>>>>>>G work
Go to the US and copy their franchise systems, use the MLS it’s the newest and the best for Australian Rugby and build a NATIONAL DOMESTIC COMPETITION.
When FFA sell the National Teams, for whatever they get, it will a combined media deal somewhere between 50 & 70 million a year plus whatever they can sell overseas.
WE out rate, out crowd, and out media space the A-League, and they get double the deal after the FFA sign.
How does the Elton John song go, “””Sorry seems to be the hardest word””
If this does not convince any of the doubting Thomas's then nothing will.
Create a NATIONAL DOMESTIC competition run by the owners with the framework developed by RA.
Super Rugby out rates the A-League, Super Rugby crowds are better than the A-League, the A-League has been going down faster than a Kings Cross whore. All this makes the SMH article all the more galling.
The kind would say, my predication is proving to be correct.
The less kind would say, were did we go wrong,
The unkind would say, I Told You So,
The cruel would say, well WTF do you have to say now after years of putting !!!**** on ideas expressed.
The A-League alone, not including national teams just signed according to the SMH, a 200 million deal of which 160 cash and 40 million contras, with two A-League matches on 10 and one W-League match on 10. Plus a weekly channel 10 panel show.
NATIONAL DOMESTIC COMPETITIONS JUST F>>>>>>>>>>>>G work
Go to the US and copy their franchise systems, use the MLS it’s the newest and the best for Australian Rugby and build a NATIONAL DOMESTIC COMPETITION.
When FFA sell the National Teams, for whatever they get, it will a combined media deal somewhere between 50 & 70 million a year plus whatever they can sell overseas.
WE out rate, out crowd, and out media space the A-League, and they get double the deal after the FFA sign.
How does the Elton John song go, “””Sorry seems to be the hardest word””
If this does not convince any of the doubting Thomas's then nothing will.
Create a NATIONAL DOMESTIC competition run by the owners with the framework developed by RA.
WorkingClassRugger
David Codey (61)
I'd take either one of those structures. Though the first one would be the likely better option if they ever wanted to expand participation.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Ok tell that to JOC (James O'Connor). It's one thing to be open to idea, another to actually do it
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
Its also divided by 12 teams across 27 competition weeks.
The RA deal (yes it includes Wallabies matches) is divided by 5 teams with a top up element to it which is the equivalent of probably another team in salaries. With the amount of fixtures probably been 35% of what the a league deal is offering
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
Maybe not japanese involvement just yet?
McLennan confirmed on Wednesday talks were “not advanced”, saying that Australia and New Zealand have bigger issues to sort out before bringing another nation and more games into the frame.
“I’m up for a team or two out of Japan at some stage but Trans-Tasman is the priority for us for the moment, which will form the backbone of any future competition,” McLennan said.
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Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Are you sure you're not gilding the lily Eastman? In recent years I don't remember any teams disappearing to South Africa for more than two weeks and the popularity of Super Rugby continued to slide the whole time.
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
Reds went to South Africa then followed up with a bye. Rebels & Tahs went to SA followed by an away game in Australia.
So cities went to one game, then had to wait four weeks for the next. Not great.
Dctarget
Tim Horan (67)
Just checked and in 2018, Reds went a run of: Jaguares away, Stormers away, bye, Brumbies away, Waratahs away.
So they had one home game on the 10th of March with the next one being 21st of April.
Adam84
Phil Kearns (64)
A 2 week tour of South Africa or Argentina, meant over 3 weeks on the road and with barely any local media coverage of the team. 3 weeks is an eternity in the current sporting landscape
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Dan come on you know if nzru agreed to it, RA would agree in a heartbeat.Ok tell that to JOC (James O'Connor). It's one thing to be open to idea, another to actually do it
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Makes sense given TT cannot be hailed as a success for oz rugby at this point and hence bit of work behind the scenes for RA to do
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Peter Sullivan (51)
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sp...competition-is-premature-20210526-p57v9x.html
It is interesting that NZ are wanting the Drua and Moana Pasifika and it appears that RA prefer Japan.
This could be an interesting fight between the nations.
Personally I would prefer a few Japanese teams compete in the Australian competition but do not know how this would work in with their normal season.
An 8 team, 14 round regular season with a three week finals series would be great, the 18th week could be a one off championship game against the NZ winner.
It is interesting that NZ are wanting the Drua and Moana Pasifika and it appears that RA prefer Japan.
This could be an interesting fight between the nations.
Personally I would prefer a few Japanese teams compete in the Australian competition but do not know how this would work in with their normal season.
An 8 team, 14 round regular season with a three week finals series would be great, the 18th week could be a one off championship game against the NZ winner.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Again, is that accurate Adam? Two games away covers perhaps 7 or 8 days plus a few more for travel. Probably closer to two weeks than three.
Adam84
Phil Kearns (64)
7 to 8 days away to cover two games in South America and Africa is wishful thinking, and physically reckless
“The CA Brumbies have completed their three-week South African tour”
https://brumbies.rugby/news/2019/01/23/ca-brumbies-end-south-african-tour-on-a-high-note
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