Waratahs 2012
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Geoff Shaw (53)
Ouch....that's a pretty harsh call to make on the Captain of the Wallabies.....
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Michael Lynagh (62)
what, NSW?
Actually, it is unlikely he will return to his home state as the Rebels have not expressed interest in him.
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Chilla Wilson (44)
So we need a home grown Playmaker next year to be cover for Berrick and Hangas. Anyone know how Rohan Safioli/Ben Seymour is going? IMO they could really benifit from a year in the Tahs circle
Also, Scott Bowen must be sacked IMO, we have a Wallaby backline and:
Someone needs to tell them, just like in junior Rugby, hit the ball at pace, from depth and when we have guys like Schmoo, Turner, Horne, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), the rest is done for us.
Also, Scott Bowen must be sacked IMO, we have a Wallaby backline and:
- Our backs are flat footed when they get the ball
- There is no depth in attack
- We seem to have no set plays
Someone needs to tell them, just like in junior Rugby, hit the ball at pace, from depth and when we have guys like Schmoo, Turner, Horne, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), the rest is done for us.
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Alan Cameron (40)
I could be mistaken, but from seeing him the tahs trial isnt Rohan Safioli 14 years old? He'd be the smallest Super fly half since donnelly
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Chilla Wilson (44)
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Tony Shaw (54)
While we are relaxing over the bye week, time to think a little about next year. Thinking from the point of view of the CEO I think that hickey needs to move on. He has too many blindspots (conservative thinking on game plan, bad use of the bench, bad injury selection policy and poor recruitment [Anesi and Cross the standouts]). There are two possibilities for head coach, and it all depends on what Foley wants to do with his life. Does he want to head a franchise or does he want to coach forwards? If he wants to be head coach then he has earned first shot in my view. But he needs to be told by the CEO that he'll be a one hit wonder if he wants to continue with the conservative approach Hickey has introduced. If he wants to be forwards coach then Louden would be my choice for the position. There's bad blood over the mucking around he got when Link was shown the door but there's a new CEO and space for a new start.
I would approach Phil Waugh with a proposition - make this the last year and step up to forwards coach or defensive coach next year depending on who gets head coach. This will allow us to pull younger fetchers through the system. As George Smith and the Invisible Man have both found out, fetcher is a young man's position. Todd, Pocock, Brussow, Colby and others have proved this and another year in the gym for Gill will confirm it. Phil's experience would make him a wonderful coach, his enthusiasm would be infective and every player would make the extra effort just to avoid a Waugh bollicking.
Bowen has been poor as backs coach. Despite the injury disruptions, the backs receive the ball flat-footed, passes are to the man or behind, rarely in front and with Mitchell out we do not have any first phase planned moves. On what we have seen this year he doesn't have the fundamentals, so we are looking for a new one.
Its a left-field thought but I would try to get Bob Dwyer to mentor the coaching team. He's a very strong personality and would need to understand the role, but having someone like him for the coaching team to refer to for advice would be very valuable. A bit like the role Jones did for White with the SB's and a bit of a sounding board too.
From a squad viewpoint I think the front row is fine as is, the second row needs one more experienced player so Peterson can be brought through ready for 2013. I love that Vickerman will be able to lead them and mentor Douglas and Peterson. He would be my captain. The backrow is fine except for fetchers coming through. If Hodgson's not available to be poached we need to either hire a marquee player or add an inexperienced up-and-comer like Colby or Hooper to Alcock and McCutcheon. Alcock needs to be tried more and McC needs to be told one good game, one fair game and two bad games do not make a career. Consistently good is the only acceptable performance. The rest of the backrow is super strong with McCaffrey not even getting a look in yet due to injury.
McKibben would be my first choice half and I would approach Nick White, Grayson Hart, Richard Kingi and the other SD young star (de Roos?) hoping to get two out of four. Ten is fine with Barnes and Hangers, as is 12 with Carter and Horne. I would look at trying to poach Harris if JOC (James O'Connor) goes to the Reds, he's the most reliable kicker in the Aussie Super squads and could cover 15 too. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) takes 13 with BKH, Bennetts and Kingston as back-up. Cross needs to be let go. The wingers and fullback are suddenly severely understrength. Anesi can't go more than two years thank God (the worst signing in marquee history) so we have Turner and Mitchell to cover three positions. Why have QLD got all the quick wingers? Time to poach at least one and start a search for fullbacks. Letting the Manly 15 go to Ireland was a major fuck-up.
With some good recruiting the Tahs will be very strong next year with a new coach to inject a fresh approach. We had a horrible draw this year, we should be playing the top overseas franchises at home next year and be well placed to finally take it out.
I would approach Phil Waugh with a proposition - make this the last year and step up to forwards coach or defensive coach next year depending on who gets head coach. This will allow us to pull younger fetchers through the system. As George Smith and the Invisible Man have both found out, fetcher is a young man's position. Todd, Pocock, Brussow, Colby and others have proved this and another year in the gym for Gill will confirm it. Phil's experience would make him a wonderful coach, his enthusiasm would be infective and every player would make the extra effort just to avoid a Waugh bollicking.
Bowen has been poor as backs coach. Despite the injury disruptions, the backs receive the ball flat-footed, passes are to the man or behind, rarely in front and with Mitchell out we do not have any first phase planned moves. On what we have seen this year he doesn't have the fundamentals, so we are looking for a new one.
Its a left-field thought but I would try to get Bob Dwyer to mentor the coaching team. He's a very strong personality and would need to understand the role, but having someone like him for the coaching team to refer to for advice would be very valuable. A bit like the role Jones did for White with the SB's and a bit of a sounding board too.
From a squad viewpoint I think the front row is fine as is, the second row needs one more experienced player so Peterson can be brought through ready for 2013. I love that Vickerman will be able to lead them and mentor Douglas and Peterson. He would be my captain. The backrow is fine except for fetchers coming through. If Hodgson's not available to be poached we need to either hire a marquee player or add an inexperienced up-and-comer like Colby or Hooper to Alcock and McCutcheon. Alcock needs to be tried more and McC needs to be told one good game, one fair game and two bad games do not make a career. Consistently good is the only acceptable performance. The rest of the backrow is super strong with McCaffrey not even getting a look in yet due to injury.
McKibben would be my first choice half and I would approach Nick White, Grayson Hart, Richard Kingi and the other SD young star (de Roos?) hoping to get two out of four. Ten is fine with Barnes and Hangers, as is 12 with Carter and Horne. I would look at trying to poach Harris if JOC (James O'Connor) goes to the Reds, he's the most reliable kicker in the Aussie Super squads and could cover 15 too. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) takes 13 with BKH, Bennetts and Kingston as back-up. Cross needs to be let go. The wingers and fullback are suddenly severely understrength. Anesi can't go more than two years thank God (the worst signing in marquee history) so we have Turner and Mitchell to cover three positions. Why have QLD got all the quick wingers? Time to poach at least one and start a search for fullbacks. Letting the Manly 15 go to Ireland was a major fuck-up.
With some good recruiting the Tahs will be very strong next year with a new coach to inject a fresh approach. We had a horrible draw this year, we should be playing the top overseas franchises at home next year and be well placed to finally take it out.
Ruggo
Mark Ella (57)
Hickey has got to go. He has had the side for three years now and achieved what? You need an openside and the one he cut loose it is carving it up in another franchice.
Barnes would be a better captain than Vickerman as Vickerman is too old to grow into the job and the Tahs need to look further down the track.
Barnes would be a better captain than Vickerman as Vickerman is too old to grow into the job and the Tahs need to look further down the track.
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Ben Mowen would be the best choice to captain the Tahs.
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
Thats good news. I was very happy for Ulugia who played well under adversity last week. He had been throwing crap to the line out for the Tahs and you wouldn't believe it but he was even worse in some games for the Juniors.
I don't know that having 3 hookers with Super contracts is the way to go any more than having 3 scummies is, but there they are. Not to the point: but it was a pity that Fitzy hurt himself when he could have got some starting games under his belt.
Kepu has been a revelation this year at THP since he took over the spot: something I didn't pick at the start of the season and it was good to lock him in with Fuse nearing the end of his run. Good to see a valid Oz alternative to Slipper at THP and in being so Kepu could be looking at the test bench prop spot.
I can't help thinking what a pity it was when he injured himself on the 2009 EOYT on the dodgy grass at Wembly. He may have got to his present level a year earlier.
I don't know that having 3 hookers with Super contracts is the way to go any more than having 3 scummies is, but there they are. Not to the point: but it was a pity that Fitzy hurt himself when he could have got some starting games under his belt.
Kepu has been a revelation this year at THP since he took over the spot: something I didn't pick at the start of the season and it was good to lock him in with Fuse nearing the end of his run. Good to see a valid Oz alternative to Slipper at THP and in being so Kepu could be looking at the test bench prop spot.
I can't help thinking what a pity it was when he injured himself on the 2009 EOYT on the dodgy grass at Wembly. He may have got to his present level a year earlier.
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