Waratahs 2012

[DPK]

O'Connor's gone. (To France)

 

[Groucho]

There's a lot of dissing of Mumm. The fact is he's a highly versatile and popular Wallaby lock, a real team man, and does enough for both Deans and Hickey to pick him regularly, and in Hickey's case as captain. There's no 'sadly' about him being in the squad. Perhaps the armchair critics have it wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Joe Mac]

Did you say JOC (James O'Connor) to France? WTF! really?

 

[rugbysmartarse]

I assume he meant Pat O'conner.

what's happened to josh holmes? is he going next year?

 

[Sully]

Shouldn't this be in the Tahs 2012 thread?

 

[Ruggo]

Tahs really need to sort the coach issue out so they can get serious about recruiting. Just a thought, if Horne and Barnes pull through their health concerns, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) will become a very viable fullback option. Turner could also as well.

 

[waratahjesus]

at the moment.

1-robbo
2-TPN/fitz
3-kepu
4-douglas
5-timani (supposedly coming back from japan in march)
6-mumm
7-alcock
8-palu
9-holmes
10-barnes/hangers
11-mitchell
12-tommy rockabilly carter
13-horne
14-turner
15-AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)

recruitment isnt that bad, waiting on a few injuries, but it would be hard pressed to sign a 5/8 without knowing if barnes could play on or not.
Foley will be coach, i dont think players would have resigned if it wasnt already sorted behind closed doors.
14-turner

 

[farva]

As a starting team, thats very good. And remember that the Tahs have yet to sign their marquee and non-marquee player.

Id be looking for a backup flyhalf / 2nd five type player in case Barnes is gooonnneneee as the marquee and perhaps another backrower.

And I wouldnt be surprised to see Elsom head to the Tahs.

 

[rugbysmartarse]

just read on the western force website that they've released jono jenkins. I only saw him play the one game (good luck breaking into that starting back row) but he seemed pretty handy and from memory made a whole bunch of tackles. Anyone have an opinion on him from club rugby,, and is he an option for a backup 7 spot?

 

[waratahjesus]

as far as i can tell, there going to have talks with beau and i dont for a moment believe the elsom deal is dead, so i think the ths are just doing things quietly rather than putting out media adverts about who there going after like some places.

 

[WorkingClassRugger]

As a starting team, thats very good. And remember that the Tahs have yet to sign their marquee and non-marquee player.

Id be looking for a backup flyhalf / 2nd five type player in case Barnes is gooonnneneee as the marquee and perhaps another backrower.

And I wouldnt be surprised to see Elsom head to the Tahs.

Stade have just declared bankruptcy, maybe Felipe Contepomi might be looking for an out especially if they are relegated to ProD2.

 

[Slim 293]

at the moment.

1-robbo
2-TPN/fitz
3-kepu
4-douglas
5-timani (supposedly coming back from japan in march)
6-mumm
7-alcock
8-palu
9-holmes
10-barnes/hangers
11-mitchell
12-tommy rockabilly carter
13-horne
14-turner
15-AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)

recruitment isnt that bad, waiting on a few injuries, but it would be hard pressed to sign a 5/8 without knowing if barnes could play on or not.
Foley will be coach, i dont think players would have resigned if it wasnt already sorted behind closed doors.
14-turner

I thought Holmes was also heading to France?

Or am I getting my wires crossed?

 

[waratahjesus]

handnt heard that but he well could be. phipps or phibbs or whoever is whoever will probably end up at tah land to i would say.

 

[Slim 293]

Phipps is staying with the Rebels, but Phibbs might be a possibility...

 

[fatprop]

McCibban is the only signed 9 we have for next season.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Phibbs offered a contract, he is pretty good (despite some Brumbie supporter hate), has experience at the level and is a leader.

But we need a young-ling to develop

 

[Bruce Ross]

just read on the western force website that they've released jono jenkins. I only saw him play the one game (good luck breaking into that starting back row) but he seemed pretty handy and from memory made a whole bunch of tackles. Anyone have an opinion on him from club rugby,, and is he an option for a backup 7 spot?

Jono is hard as nails, strong, quick and has a big motor. If the Waratahs miss him again they have no eye for cattle. Let's look at his Fox Fantasy stats compared to Phil Waugh:

Jenkins Waugh

Minutes played: 205 459

Tackles made: 53 62

Tackles made per 80 minutes: 21 11

Tackles missed: 1 8

Pilfers: 1 2

Turnovers forced: 2 1

Errors: 0 2

Long arm penalties: 2 6

Yellow cards: 1 0

 

[high tower]

McCibban is the only signed 9 we have for next season.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Phibbs offered a contract, he is pretty good (despite some Brumbie supporter hate), has experience at the level and is a leader.

But we need a young-ling to develop

Recent NSW half backs of note and current Wallaby half and captain in waiting have some qualities in common

Whittaker
Sheehan
Burgess
Genia

Strong in the tackle both front on and in cover, ability to pilfer and assist loose forwards where needed.

 

[Hawko]

just read on the western force website that they've released jono jenkins. I only saw him play the one game (good luck breaking into that starting back row) but he seemed pretty handy and from memory made a whole bunch of tackles. Anyone have an opinion on him from club rugby,, and is he an option for a backup 7 spot?

Reinforcing Bruce's comment. He was fabulous in his tackling, 53 tackles in two and a half games. That stat is positively Saffyesqe. Alcock, who might become something in the future and is actively being discussed, missed seven tackles per game in the two SA matches, 14 in total. Jenkins missed 1 in the same sort of playing time. He won't cost a fortune and could easily be Phil's successor. When I watched those Force games I was really impressed with his play, he was heroic. He needs to be bought right bloody now!

 

[Langthorne]

Number 10 is the big worry for me. Halangahu has not had great games of late, which is hardly surprising given the lack of faith shown in him this season. His highlights are the two big tackles on big Brumby forwards. I don't have anything against him, and I think a good coach could get more from him (and give more to him), but he is not the player required to be the main creative in the new Waratah backline - if Dan Carter can't be persuaded, then I like the suggestion of Contepomi or some other established marquee flyhalf. Obviously there needs to be a local young gun being groomed too.

 

[light]

Can't help but notice the Australian U20's #9 Eddie Bredenhann. Is he signed with NSW?