Waratahs 2012

[Bruce Ross]

Bruce - are the stats you mentioned in the public domain? If so, do you have a link please?

LG, it takes a little bit of fiddling but if you go to http://superrugbyfantasy.foxsports.com.au/ you can register a username. Then you can log in and go to http://superrugbyfantasy.foxsports.com.au/squad-selection/ where you can find individual player stats.

I haven't been able to find a better alternative source.

 

[fatprop]

LG, it takes a little bit of fiddling but if you go to http://superrugbyfantasy.foxsports.com.au/ you can register a username. Then you can log in and go to http://superrugbyfantasy.foxsports.com.au/squad-selection/ where you can find individual player stats.

I haven't been able to finds a better alternative source.

Bruce

This one is pretty good

http://www.rugbystats.com.au/rugby/index.html

 

[Bowside]

So barnes is out.

Foley to 10, Paka to the wing and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) stays at the back?

Or do you go with hangers at 10 and move AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) to the wing and foley to 15?

They could even think about moving playing hangers at 15, foley at 10 and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) on the wing.

 

[Nelse]

Barnes out again on Friday

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/6493746/Waratahs-lose-Barnes-for-clash-with-Rebels

 

[fatprop]

So barnes is out.

Foley to 10, Paka to the wing and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) stays at the back?

Or do you go with hangers at 10 and move AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) to the wing and foley to 15?

They could even think about moving playing hangers at 15, foley at 10 and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) on the wing.

I would hope

9 Pretorious
10 Hangers
11 AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper)
12 Carter
13 Horne
14 Kingston
15 Foley

 

[spectator]

That Kingston looks like he'll be a good player. Liked what little I saw of him last weekend.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Barnes out again on Friday

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/6493746/Waratahs-lose-Barnes-for-clash-with-Rebels

The tea leaves are telling me this is a serious injury....
Hangers - its time to go: I know nothing about this Foley but a few of you on here reckon he's got it and he was electric in patches on Sat'dy so throw him the ball and see what happens.
Agree with spectator re Kingston - although he's a bit skinny!

 

[Lee Grant]

Not a bad winger for an outside centre is he, young Tom. Watch this space.

As I mentioned on the Rd. 2 game thread - and fat prop has also mentioned above - Foley was training with the Ones this morning and BKH was in the Twos. It came to pass earlier than I thought.

I expect Foley will play fullback as he doesn't have a winger's pace. AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) doesn't really have it either but he has experience there.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Sorry - I thought Foley could play 10....on the other hand who says he cant?

 

[fatprop]

Sorry - I thought Foley could play 10....on the other hand who says he cant?

He can, but Hangers is needed to kick goals

 

[Inside Shoulder]

He can, but Hangers is needed to kick goals

I think they need some zip in the backline otherwise they run the risk of scoring some multiple of 3 but losing anyway

 

[Lee Grant]

Hangers trained at 10 this morning not Foley; but Foley can play 10, 12 and 15.

Making an impact from the bench is a good attribute but starting a game is another matter. I'll back him to go OK running on at fullback, but let's see.

 

[Bruce Ross]

You've developed a stutter, LG.

 

[Lee Grant]

I've got a new wireless keyboard with a mouse pad - it's a bit "touchy".

 

[Joe Mac]

LG, what are your thoughts on Alcock? I thought he had a shocker on the weekend and that 7 is one of the Tah's weakest positions...

 

[Bruce Ross]

LG, what are your thoughts on Alcock? I thought he had a shocker on the weekend and that 7 is one of the Tah's weakest positions...

Joe, obviously I am not equipped to answer on behalf of the Peninsula Pundit but I had a look on the Fox Sports Fantasy site at the defensive efficiency of all the backrowers currently playing for Australian franchises who had attempted at least 100 tackles in Super competition since 2008. Chris Alcock's stats do not look good:

Pocock 5.5% of tackles attempted were missed
Saffy 6.1
Lipman 7.1
Elsom 7.8
Hooper 8.9
Hpdgson 9.5
Samo 11.0
Brown 11.2
McCalman 11.5
Dennis 11.8
Fainga'a 12.3
Robinson 12.8
Palu 13.8
Schatz 14.8
Chamberlain 15.5
Mowen 15.6
Higginbotham 17.7
Alcock 20.9

David Pocock's figures are quite extraordinary. By comparison Richie McCaw's percentage of missed tackles is 9.3.

Pat McCutcheon who is contesting the 7 position with Chris Alcock has attempted 91 tackles of which he has missed 11.0%.

 

[Hawko]

Joe, obviously I am not equipped to answer on behalf of the Peninsula Pundit but I had a look on the Fox Sports Fantasy site at the defensive efficiency of all the backrowers currently playing for Australian franchises who had attempted at least 100 tackles in Super competition since 2008. Chris Alcock's stats do not look good:

Pocock 5.5% of tackles attempted were missed
Saffy 6.1
Lipman 7.1
Elsom 7.8
Hooper 8.9
Hpdgson 9.5
Samo 11.0
Brown 11.2
McCalman 11.5
Dennis 11.8
Fainga'a 12.3
Robinson 12.8
Palu 13.8
Schatz 14.8
Chamberlain 15.5
Mowen 15.6
Higginbotham 17.7
Alcock 20.9

David Pocock's figures are quite extraordinary. By comparison Richie McCaw's percentage of missed tackles is 9.3.

Pat McCutcheon who is contesting the 7 position with Chris Alcock has attempted 91 tackles of which he has missed 11.0%.

If my memory is correct (happening less and less frequently these days) then the only player better than Pocock (but I don't think he played enough to get 100) was........Jono Jenkins.

 

[Bruce Ross]

Unfortunately, Hawko, at this point Jono is not listed on the Fox Sports Fantasy site presumably because he is not contracted.

 

[Jnor]

David Pocock's figures are quite extraordinary. By comparison Richie McCaw's percentage of missed tackles is 9.3.

Thanks for reaffirming my man crush for David Pocock, Bruce. Thought you should know.

 

[Bruce Ross]

Thanks for reaffirming my man crush for David Pocock, Bruce. Thought you should know.

I'm glad you shared that with me, Jnor. You are probably aware that you are not alone on this site, with male members using his topless body as an avatar and women members talking about having to go to confession after thinking about him. If he had chosen to locate in Sydney I'm sure he would have had his own float by now. Move over, Kylie and Clover.

 

[TOCC]

pretty awesome stats for Pocock, sometimes players like Pocock who cover a lot of ground can have inflated 'missed tackle' statistics because they are physically close to a lot of action but may not always be in a position to make a effective tackle