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Waratahs 2011

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Joe Mac

Arch Winning (36)
What about Jono Jenkins. I know he had a very brief run at the Force (about 2 minutes before he was injured) but he is only 24, and is a real talent at number 7. Does anyone know if he will get a shot at a Super 15 side this year?
 

Bruce Ross

Ken Catchpole (46)
What about Jono Jenkins. I know he had a very brief run at the Force (about 2 minutes before he was injured) but he is only 24, and is a real talent at number 7. Does anyone know if he will get a shot at a Super 15 side this year?

He went very well in the Shute Shield Grand Final despite losing 7kg during the week from what I understand was a gastric complaint. Very powerful lad who has a big future although the Force are not exactly lacking back rowers.
 

Jnor

Peter Fenwicke (45)
He went very well in the Shute Shield Grand Final despite losing 7kg during the week from what I understand was a gastric complaint. Very powerful lad who has a big future although the Force are not exactly lacking back rowers.

He's definitely a strong bloke but I am yet to see much of the real in-your-face spoiling, pilfering and general breakdown mayhem that a 7 should be causing. He may well not have had a chance to shine at Super but for mine there's a few ahead of him in the queue
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
He went very well in the Shute Shield Grand Final despite losing 7kg during the week from what I understand was a gastric complaint. Very powerful lad who has a big future although the Force are not exactly lacking back rowers.

Does anyone think the clubs will actually use a rotation policy? They should in my opinion. Take Pocock for instance; unless injured, it's likely he'll play all of the Tests on the EOYT, then he'll return to Australia and get a couple of weeks rest probably before he has to start pre-season for the new Super season, which is longer. He's gotta be afforded some time of during the season, which is where a guy like Jenkins can get a chance to shine.
 

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
Does anyone think the clubs will actually use a rotation policy? They should in my opinion. Take Pocock for instance; unless injured, it's likely he'll play all of the Tests on the EOYT, then he'll return to Australia and get a couple of weeks rest probably before he has to start pre-season for the new Super season, which is longer. He's gotta be afforded some time of during the season, which is where a guy like Jenkins can get a chance to shine.

Pocock, Hodgson and Brown are all basically 7's, two of whom play out of position in the hope of getting a start. In Hodgson's case it hasn't helped get him a test game much, God knows why. Jenkins needs to move elsewhere, there's just too many class players in front of him at the Force. Best bet is probably the Reds or the Tahs; both of them don't have much depth at 7.

This argument probably needs to move to the Force thread, this is after all the Tahs thread.
 
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Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
It worries me that our back-up 7 is known as someone who can play 6,7 or 8. No one thinks of Pocock as a 6,7, or 8, just as the premium fetcher in Aussie rugby. Deans makes some lousy selection calls but he sees that the back-up 7, Hodgson, is kept for that role. Just wish he saw Brown as the back-ups back-up and not an 8. We need to be bringing on a specialist 7 at the Tahs who plays 7 at club and gets 3 or 4 full Super games at 7 next year, preferably against the weaker teams, so he can learn his trade. Waugh has been a great warrior but he'll only have one more season, maybe two at the outside. I know Hickey's in his last season (or so I hope) but we need to be growing players for the future as well as just trying to win one trophy. That's the job of the head coach.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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McCutcheon is a 7, not a great one, but a 7.

And the role of the fetcher has diminished as the role of the link player/ball runner/defender has increased.

Just look how McCaw's game has changed
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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McCutcheon is a 7, not a great one, but a 7.

And the role of the fetcher has diminished as the role of the link player/ball runner/defender has increased.

Just look how McCaw's game has changed

I think the fetcher can still make a big impact, but has to be there that much quicker than the oppo on the ball now

Not that it matters as he's doing so well in the new role, but I wonder how much of this was a natural progression for McCaw with age etc anyway
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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The fetcher needs to be 2nd or third to the ball these days and attack once the tackled is released, they can make an impact, but they aren't getting 8 or 9 a game anymore so they have to do other stuff as well.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Scott Bowen takes on assistant coaching role

12/10/2010
By Waratahs Rugby Media Unit

Scott Bowen


Waratahs Rugby High Performance Manager Scott Bowen will expand his role in 2011 as he takes on the duty of assistant coach with the HSBC Waratahs.
In his position as High Performance Manager Bowen has assisted with both the HSBC Junior Waratahs and HSBC Waratahs over the past two years. Next season Bowen will take on an increased role with the Super Rugby squad with a focus on the backline. He takes over the role from Scott Wisemantel who has returned to his home on the NSW far north coast to concentrate on his sports consultancy business.
Bowen will continue to work with the other coaches in the High Performance Unit overseeing the recruitment, retention and contracting of players at all levels in the Waratahs pathway.
The former NSW and Australian flyhalf said he is looking forward to working with a group which made big strides in 2010.
“There was a definite focus this season on improving the team’s attack and that was reflected in the stats which showed we scored more tries in a season and more points in a season than ever before,” said Bowen.
“The most exciting thing is that there is genuinely a lot of improvement left in our backline.
“In 2010 Berrick [Barnes] and Drew [Mitchell] were totally new to the set up, KB (Kurtley Beale) [Kurtley Beale] had a change of position mid-season and injury management meant we needed to spend a lot of time playing around with different combinations.
“To put all those factors together and come out of it with the season we did augers pretty well for 2011. We’ll go into next year with far more stability in the team and that experience from 2010 will mean we start from a better base than last year.
“We’ve also got guys like Brendan McKibbin and Brackin Karauria-Henry who are going to be knocking on the door for selection and that competition is only going to be good for the squad as a whole.”
A nine-Test Wallaby who participated in the 1995 Rugby World Cup, Bowen is the second highest-capped Waratahs flyhalf with 49 appearances for NSW including the Tahs’ first every Super Rugby match in 1996.
Combining a successful business career with club coaching at Eastern Suburbs in the Shute Shield and Sydney Fleet in the Australian Rugby Championship, Bowen moved to NSW Rugby in late 2008 as High Performance Manager.

SCOTT BOWEN
Position: Assistant Coach (Backs)
Born: 20.09.72, Sydney NSW
Waratahs Assistant Coaching Debut: 2011
Other Coaching Roles:
Assistant Coach, Eastern Suburbs (2002-2005)
Assistant Coach, Australian Sevens (2004)
Head Coach, Australian Youth Sevens (2004)
Head Coach, Eastern Suburbs (2006-2008)
Assistant Coach, Sydney Fleet (2007)
Assistant Coach, HSBC Junior Waratahs (2009-2010)

excellent
 

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
excellent

I don't know if Bowen is a good choice, I would have liked to see someone else with a bit more silverware on his resume. Last year the JW's did not cover themselves in glory either. However, I am an ABW man - Anyone But Weismantl. In 2009, the Waratahs backline coaching appeared to be non-existent at times, for much of the season there was no structure or penetration and it appeared that no one had been in pre-season training from the first four rounds or so. So this is good news, I think.
 

topo

Cyril Towers (30)
I don't know if Bowen is a good choice, I would have liked to see someone else with a bit more silverware on his resume. Last year the JW's did not cover themselves in glory either. However, I am an ABW man - Anyone But Weismantl. In 2009, the Waratahs backline coaching appeared to be non-existent at times, for much of the season there was no structure or penetration and it appeared that no one had been in pre-season training from the first four rounds or so. So this is good news, I think.

The JWs did alright. Beat Qld B twice and only lost one game all year and that was to the Brumby Runners when they were able to include a number of rockstars because they had played 2 days before. I think Bowen will go OK.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Easts were pretty good and very attacking under him, if we just chose "silverware winners" we would just shop at Uni.
 
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