Wallabies Watch

[brumsfan]

Who will be the starting 7? my money is on hooper as he is playing superbly and Deans won't forget he was the wallabies best all last year.
Depending on where you live or bias others will have differing opinions, but here are some published stats taken from fox sports and the rugby stats site. I used both as not all stats appear on each site.
Smith missed the first 2 games, Gill missed one through injury and hooper has had two byes so minutes played are not too dissimilar.
Total Runs - Smith 68 - Gill 64 - Hooper 62
Run Metres total/open/tight
Hooper - 391/209/182
Smith - 304/119/185
Gill - 251/88/163
TACKLES MADE
Hooper - 126
Smith - 112
Gill - 101
TACKLE BUSTS
Smith - 16
Hooper - 14
Gill - 7
OFFLOADS
Smith - 12
Hooper - 2
Gill - 2
LINEBREAKS
Hooper - 5
Gill - 3
Smith - 1
PILFERS
Smith - 5
Gill - 5
Hooper - 3
TURNOVERS FORCED
Hooper - 4
Gill - 4
Smith - 4
Stats are stats and of course are not the whole story, they dont take into account coaches instructions, combinations or how individual players are being used, such as Gill in the lineout, and the Brumbies using Smith as a ball distributor.
As I said these are published stats and not mine, so save you breath if you don't like them or they don't support your views.

 

[Richo]

Fainga'a, McCabe and Horne have runs on the board and offer more in defence then Inman does. For a big bloke Inman really should be offering a lot more.

I don't see him coming not selection unless AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Fainga'a and McCabe get injured.

Horne has been quietly excellent at 12. I definitely think it's his best position. If he keeps playing this way, he's a good injury-crisis option for the Wallabies -- although he shouldn't be close to first choice, of course.

 

[cyclopath]

Who will be the starting 7? my money is on hooper as he is playing superbly and Deans won't forget he was the wallabies best all last year.
Depending on where you live or bias others will have differing opinions, but here are some published stats taken from fox sports and the rugby stats site. I used both as not all stats appear on each site.
Smith missed the first 2 games, Gill missed one through injury and hooper has had two byes so minutes played are not too dissimilar.
Total Runs - Smith 68 - Gill 64 - Hooper 62
Run Metres total/open/tight
Hooper - 391/209/182
Smith - 304/119/185
Gill - 251/88/163
TACKLES MADE
Hooper - 126
Smith - 112
Gill - 101
TACKLE BUSTS
Smith - 16
Hooper - 14
Gill - 7
OFFLOADS
Smith - 12
Hooper - 2
Gill - 2
LINEBREAKS
Hooper - 5
Gill - 3
Smith - 1
PILFERS
Smith - 5
Gill - 5
Hooper - 3
TURNOVERS FORCED
Hooper - 4
Gill - 4
Smith - 4
Stats are stats and of course are not the whole story, they dont take into account coaches instructions, combinations or how individual players are being used, such as Gill in the lineout, and the Brumbies using Smith as a ball distributor.
As I said these are published stats and not mine, so save you breath if you don't like them or they don't support your views.

Unsurprisingly, it shows me that we have 3 very good options, and I would not be fussed which of the 3 started, nor which was on the bench.

 

[Jets]

Your stats are very ball runner focused.
Other things you could look at include

LINEOUTS WON
Gill - 8
Smith - 0
Hooper - 1

YELLOW CARDS
Gill - 1
Smith - 0
Hooper - 0

PENALTIES CONCEDED
Smith - 7
Hooper - 7
Gill -5

I think it's a tight contest for who plays 7 and I'd be happy with any of the 3. From reports Deans will have to make a decision about Smith soon and discuss it with Suntory. 3 weeks ago I would have had Gill ahead with Smith then Hooper but that has changed with Hooper having 2 really good games in the last 2 weeks. That makes me think it will be Hooper, Smith then Gill. This is due to the previous experience that Hooper and Smith have. I wouldn't be surprised if all 3 made the squad.

 

[Ash]

Is there an easy way of getting seasonal stats from rugbystats?

The other missing stats are the errors (e.g. dropped balls) and missed tackles.

Overall, I think we are lucky to have three wonderful players. Each offers something slightly different, so a horses for courses policy could apply.

 

[Rassie]

Is there an easy way of getting seasonal stats from rugbystats?

The other missing stats are the errors (e.g. dropped balls) and missed tackles.

Overall, I think we are lucky to have three wonderful players. Each offers something slightly different, so a horses for courses policy could apply.

you should look at ineffective tackles. That is when he made the tackle but the guy bumped him off or broke free

 

[rotary hoe]

The Blues tactic of no kicking and a game of keepings off should have been a pilfering number 7's dream yet Gill was fairly quiet on that front. Smith and Pocock would have had a field day..

 

[USARugger]

rotary hoe

Private message me and I can set you up with a link so that you can actually watch the Blues v. Reds game from the weekend

 

[Richo]

Beale is back in the Rebels' fold. How long before he is being talked about for the Wallabies again? How much form should he have to show? Will Deans just slot him in because he's a star?

My feeling is that he should be a fair way down the list for both 10 and 15. And that's leaving aside his off-field issues.

 

[Tex]

Beale is back in the Rebels' fold. How long before he is being talked about for the Wallabies again? How much form should he have to show? Will Deans just slot him in because he's a star?

My feeling is that he should be a fair way down the list for both 10 and 15. And that's leaving aside his off-field issues.

He's turned up overweight at the beginning of the last two seasons at the Rebels so unless he's been running hill sprints for the last five weeks i'd say he's an outsider at best.

 

[Jets]

Beale is back in the Rebels' fold. How long before he is being talked about for the Wallabies again? How much form should he have to show? Will Deans just slot him in because he's a star?

My feeling is that he should be a fair way down the list for both 10 and 15. And that's leaving aside his off-field issues.

People are still naming him in their teams. If I was involved he wouldn't go anywhere near the Gold jersey until the end of the Super season. I guess it all comes down to on field performances though.

 

[Scoey]

He's turned up overweight at the beginning of the last two seasons at the Rebels so unless he's been running hill sprints for the last five weeks i'd say he's an outsider at best.

From all reports he's off the drink (as he should be obviously) and has been training quite hard, so apart from match fitness, the break could actually have him coming back in pretty good nick! If his head is sorted, or at least on the way to being sorted, he could be primed to play some vintage Beale Rugby.

All that being said though, he should be well down the list and the off field incident should not be allowed to be overlooked too quickly. We don't want to be punishing the guy forever though so it's a fine line.

Lets' just see what he looks like on the pitch first.

 

[USARugger]

If he returns fit and shows some form he will shoot up the ladder because we sort of have a dearth of anyone who could be considered a specialist fullback that also has test experience.

 

[Paradox]

If he returns fit and shows some form he will shoot up the ladder because we sort of have a dearth of anyone who could be considered a specialist fullback that also has test experience.

My concern is that he was dumped from fullback last year

 

[USARugger]

The way he was playing at that time would have gotten him dumped from whatever position he was playing at that moment I'd reckon.

 

[Groucho]

Beale is back in the Rebels' fold. How long before he is being talked about for the Wallabies again? How much form should he have to show? Will Deans just slot him in because he's a star?

My feeling is that he should be a fair way down the list for both 10 and 15. And that's leaving aside his off-field issues.

It depends how he plays. If he comes back fit and plays like his highlights reel he'll walk into the team: not only is he electric but he has invaluable test experience.

If he comes back fat and takes a month to get back into form then it's hard to see how he can possibly be considered, with so many in-form players available: JOC (James O'Connor) and ACC if needs be, but perhaps more interestingly Folau and Mogg. It depends on how much of a risk Deans is prepared to take with a debutante.

Replies that Deans is an idiot will be unread.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

It depends how he plays. If he comes back fit and plays like his highlights reel he'll walk into the team: not only is he electric but he has invaluable test experience.

If he comes back fat and takes a month to get back into form then it's hard to see how he can possibly be considered, with so many in-form players available: JOC (James O'Connor) and ACC if needs be, but perhaps more interestingly Folau and Mogg. It depends on how much of a risk Deans is prepared to take with a debutante.

Replies that Deans is an idiot will be unread.

Folau is very much a known or contained risk.
He's played at the highest level in loig at a very young age. It's true that the "dynamics" (not a word associated with mungo ball, I know) are so vastly different that the opportunity to wander out of position or to otherwise get lost is nowhere near as prevalent in loig as it is in union but he's got the right temperament and his positional play, which I've not seen in the flesh since the Saders trial, seems pretty good.
I think Deans can pick him as a fairly low risk option, but I'm not sure i would in his position.


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[BDA]

Looking at the Lions squad I think we can win this series IF we get our selections right. They'll have the edge in the front row, but provided we don't suffer injuries to our top props we should be ok. In the back-row we should be able to match them and at no.7 we should have the edge. With the likes of Horwill, Mowen, Higgers, Simo, etc our lineout should be good enough.

We will clearly have the edge in the outside backs IMHO. Its pretty clear from their squad that they've gone with size and strength. I think, to an extent, that will play into our hands a bit and I see us scoring some tries with a more dynamic backline. At the same time, we'll need to tailor our defensive patterns to deal with their big runners. I think we should be employing a rush defence. I cant see the ball going to the Lions' back 3 very often.

 

[USARugger]

BDA

Gats also picked Bowe and Maitland in the wings. More than likely one of the wings is going to be an out-and-out flyer for the dry Australian pitches.

Watching the Rebels game..Higginbotham made some huge errors. He blew the defensive assignment that let Luke Romano make his break down the middle and later he got smashed and coughed up the ball when the Rebels were knocking on the Crusader's try line.

 

[BDA]

With the Midfield that Lions have chosen im not sure how they plan on getting the balls to their wingers. Actually I don't think that is part of their plan.

The flyhalf/centre choices look physical but predictable. (O'Driscoll aside although he's not the threat he was 12 years ago).