Wallabies v Springboks Saturday 9th Sept NIB Stadium

[wamberal]

Wallabies by 50.

I'll take them with that points start.

 

[dru]

It will be worth comparing physiques of the back row. Waiting for the Safers. Our blokes:

6. Hanigan 194cm; 110kg
7. Hooper 182 cm; 101kg
8. McMahon 186cm; 100kg

Total ------------------ 311kg

20. Dempsey 191cm; 109kg

Match up Safers later.

6. Siya Kolisi 188cm; 105 kg
7. Jaco Kriel 184cm; 97kg
8. Uzair Cassiem 189cm; 108 kg

Total 310kg

20 Jean-Luc du Preeze 194cm; 113kg

On those figures I was wrong. WB back row is not so small/light after all.

Edit: BH beat me to it though.

 

[PaarlBok]

6. Siya Kolisi 188cm; 105 kg
7. Jaco Kriel 184cm; 97kg
8. Uzair Cassiem 189cm; 108 kg

Total 310kg

20 Jean-Luc du Preeze 194cm; 113kg

On those figures I was wrong. WB back row is not so small/light after all.

Edit: BH beat me to it though.

du Preez is Yster.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Here's some more interesting stats:

Wobs & Bokke both have 42 wins, 2 draws & 57 losses from 101 TRC matches.
Wobs have conceded 2,472 in those matches, Bokke 2,473.
Wobs have scored 2,147 v Bokke's 2,197

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Rugb...to-see-these-springbok-wallaby-stats-20170906

 

[Ulrich]

As mentioned before, this is not a traditional Bok side. They are smaller and much quicker.

 

[Dctarget]

Huge congratulations to Jordan Uelese! Too exciting - this is massive. Amazing rise considering he pretty much hasn't played Super rugby and only turned 20 this year.

Also comforting to know that Vic Rugby is already putting out Wallabies only 7 years into the Rebels existing.

This is amazing for a lot of people: Jordan, grass roots in Vic, the Rebels.

But IMO most importantly, me.
Fuck it, I'm gonna claim this one. Jordan was sporadically my team mate, but much more often, my opponent. Pretty chuffed to say that I've now had a wallaby run over me/side step me/generally embarrass me more times than I'd care to admit.

Good luck Jordan.

 

[Killer]

Killer, from Wikipedia:

Speight 1.86m and 97 kg;
Koroibete 1.8m and 93 kg.

Speight is marginally the bigger, and imo plays bigger. Koroibete might be the faster.

Thanks BR
yeah I don't have a preference but I see no reason to not change it up a bit to keep everyone hungry and maintain depth.
I am interested to see how Koroibete goes, he is barrel chested and seems to have a nose for a try. I agree speed wise too.
Haven't noticed his defence yet?

 

[PaarlBok]

All jokes aside, have a great feel for this test. The Bokke bench look very solid.

 

[Killer]

looking forward to watching Serfontein, one of my favourites, Beale and co better not be resting on their laurels after Bled 2, he will cut right through them otherwise.

 

[Killer]

It will be interesting up front

http://www.sport24.co.za/Multimedia/Rugby/bok-forwards-v-wallaby-backs-mark-keohane-20170907

 

[Scrubber2050]

It's conceivable that McMahon could string together the sort of form that pushes Hooper to the bench and he combines with Pocock in the future, but it is really hard to pinpoint any games where Pocock has played 8 and hasn't performed better than any traditional number 8s we have fielded otherwise.

Hooper and Pocock worked ay RWC 2015 - 2 years ago

Both should never be on the paddock together. That's a joke and Chek playing his favourite game. Pick the best 7 between the two of them.

Pick the best 6 and 8 on their own merits. Don't play blokes out of position - it rarely succeeds

Coach the three of them into a formidable combination and some of the Wallaby problems will be solved.

 

[Ulrich]

Hooper and Pocock worked ay RWC 2015 - 2 years ago

Both should never be on the paddock together. That's a joke and Chek playing his favourite game. Pick the best 7 between the two of them.

Pick the best 6 and 8 on their own merits. Don't play blokes out of position - it rarely succeeds

Coach the three of them into a formidable combination and some of the Wallaby problems will be solved.

To be honest I didn't think both Kriel and Kolisi would work either but it's going OK so far. May not work so well against the Wallabies & All Blacks but I think any loosie's effectiveness relies somewhat on the performance of the tight 5 so there may be something in that.

 

[duckbill]

not convinced... I think the bokke will pull a swifty as they have been playing a lot better than most people think.

Bench is poor, and will be found out if any of the backs gets injured.

As for Beale swapping to 10 - every time I read that I feel like this:

 

[Braveheart81]

Hooper and Pocock worked ay RWC 2015 - 2 years ago

Both should never be on the paddock together. That's a joke and Chek playing his favourite game. Pick the best 7 between the two of them.

Pick the best 6 and 8 on their own merits. Don't play blokes out of position - it rarely succeeds

Coach the three of them into a formidable combination and some of the Wallaby problems will be solved.

People keep saying this but we haven't had a number 8 who has consistently strung good test matches together for a very long time.

Find me that player and I will say that we should select them every time.

Until we find that player I am open to playing a 7 out of position because they are a substantially better rugby player than the traditional 8 we have available to us.

If we were rating the number 8 performances this year, McMahon's game last week was better than any of the three tests started by a traditional 8 in June.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

 

[Scrubber2050]

People keep saying this but we haven't had a number 8 who has consistently strung good test matches together for a very long time.

Find me that player and I will say that we should select them every time.

Until we find that player I am open to playing a 7 out of position because they are a substantially better rugby player than the traditional 8 we have available to us.

If we were rating the number 8 performances this year, McMahon's game last week was better than any of the three tests started by a traditional 8 in June.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

That's probably true but Pocock is not a true 8's arsehole. Shithouse runner, shithouse in the lineout and shithouse at cover defending (excellent in front line defence)
Without too much thought I would think Higgers would be a better 6 than Hanigan (by far) as well as a better overall 8 than McMahon (although he went pretty well in Bled 2 - and was shit in Bled 1) or Timani.

Pocock is a great 7 but a poor 8.
Hooper is an OK 7 (would be a poor 8) who probably should be playing 12.

 

[Slim 293]

I would think Higgers would be a better 6 than Hanigan (by far) as well as a better overall 8 than McMahon (although he went pretty well in Bled 2 - and was shit in Bled 1) or Timani.

Based on Higgers' 32 tests......... no.

 

[duckbill]

#bringbackradike

 

[Joe Blow]

I would still have him(Higs) at 6 with McMahon or Pocock at 8.
Naisarani will be eligible soonish and will probably be groomed at 8 for 2019.
Our lineout will be tested this week.

 

[duckbill]

Whenever I feel depressed about Aussie rugby I look back at this:

I find myself watching it on endless loop these days...

 

[TSR]

Has Dempsey been picked on the bench to take the spot light off Hanigan at 6?